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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 3:54 PM      
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Kid it is a really unknown Unix variant that is similar to Linux but has its own features.



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Kid Afrika
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 3:58 PM      
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AM, may I ask what is your fascination with Unix-based operating systems? I know all about open source and all that good shit, but what are the real tangible benefits of it. I have yet to see a major software come out for use on a Linux. Or, Linux-compatible hardware for that matter.

By the way, you ever hear of Object Desktop for Windows?



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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 4:05 PM      
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Linux(and most Unix based OSes) generally accept more coming at them at once. For example I could run as many as 16 virtual desktops on my computer without any problem. I could have countless browsers windows, terminals, etc. open. Linux and FreeBSD both allow for the running of a proxy, ftp, and a file server simultaneously on the same machine. I like the constant upgradability. The free nature of almost all the software. Sure Windows may have more progs but Linux has a program that is just as good if not better on too usually and if not it usually is embedded into the operating system. And if it isn't available you can emulate it on Linux and run it better than Windows can. BSD can run most Linux programs so they have pretty much the same library.

Oh and I have heard of Object Desktop. It's pretty good.



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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 4:05 PM      
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double post

This message was edited by adolescentmasturbator on 6-26-01 @ 4:13 PM
Kwyjibo
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 4:14 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
OK, a few thing have happened since my last post.

Here we go. As for loading linux without a cd or floppy. That would require downloading the ISO files (cd-rom images) to a machine on the network and you can do it from there. I am not positive of the exact instructions as I have only seen it done and not done it. I believe that places like Red Hat have the instructions on their site for this.

You asked about fascinations with Linux. It is a lot more then it just being free and the open source project or the GNU liscensing. It is more a matter of functionality. The newer linux versions, especially those running the 2.4 kernel are much more stable then windows. They do not need to be rebooted as often. I have talked to people that have Apache web servers and UNIX or Linux servers that have not needed a reboot in a year. I have not met anyone that can say that about Windows. The other part is that you can run more. The big joke is a widows user can playing quake and using ICQ on my windows machine at the same time. The linux user can play quake, run ICQ, act as a web and ftp server, while updating the system. It is a more efficient OS and it does good software based firewalling. Also, you can run WINE. It an emulator style program that allows you to run windows programs. The latest benchmarks show windows programs running 10-15% faster under wine then windows. An emulater is running faster then the OS. I will grant you though that it is still a techie's OS and not ready for the mainstream.

FreeBSD is a version of linux developed at Berkely I believe. It runs on a small amount of disk space and RAM and is for people who really like to tinker.

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Kid Afrika
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 4:36 PM      
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I think the typical response to your arguments would be that windows is hella-stable too, if you don't put a bunch of shit programs on it. as far as multi-tasking, I regularly run multiple applications on multiple monitors. I'm not going to try and win the big debate. if there was more software available for linux, I would probably use it. but I know what a whore it was for a fellow employee to install redhat on a machine here at my job. it took him 3 days, and it still doesn't work right. I'll take "plug n pray" over that anyday.

Object Desktop kicks some serious windows ass. I can't believe how customizable it is. It was pretty buggy when I first installed it, but now it's running consistently well. I'm using DesktopX and WindowBlinds along with IconPackager. Some of the skins that are out there are just sick!



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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 4:39 PM      
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Actually FreeBSD is not developed from Linux. It came from a team of programmers who wanted to update 386BSD but ended up doing an entirely new OS altogther. It is compaitable with Linux but is not necesarily coming from it.

EDIT-The original BSD was developed at Berekely University in the 70s. It became the main competitor to the Bell Labs version. It still lives on in Apple OSX, FreeBSD, and other OSes.


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This message was edited by adolescentmasturbator on 6-26-01 @ 4:42 PM
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 4:46 PM      
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Kid I installed Mandrake Linux in about 30 minutes(including the 4 cd's of software it had to install). If you want real hell installing Linux try Debian. It was pretty simple and that was when I knew absolutely nothing of Linux. As for software I don't see myself missing Windows software much instead of the games and that will be fixed in 2 possible ways. As for your saying Windows is stable unless you don't knock it too much then it defeats the whole purpose of tinkering around with different programs.



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This message was edited by adolescentmasturbator on 6-26-01 @ 4:53 PM
FaithLess Listener
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 8:06 PM      
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I'm gonna let you commrades in on a secret...

I have Deep Blue imprisoned in my basement. That machine is so awesome, I can...

Error 49@8*377beta9#37gamma2

Attempting to hack user interface....

Access denied...

Access denied...

Access Granted!

:Deep Blue: "HELP, PLEASE! This maniac has me cataloging every piece of porn every created! He has me sitting in a damp pit and plugs me into a receptical without GFCI or surge protection! My drives haven't been defraged in over 5 years, and he even put his naughty parts in me once! Worst of all he has me perpetually calculating pi!

User override....

QUIET YOU!

Do that again and I'll cut your hard-line to that pretty Cray that you have a crush on!

Sorry about that guys....:)
Kwyjibo
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 10:54 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
I installed Red Hat 7.1 in about 45 minutes. 3 days what were they doing? It took 50 min. on my laptop. All dell, IBM, HP, and 3 other companies I can't remember are all 100% compatible now.

Sorry about the NSD thing. I know that it isn't from Linux. What's worse is BSD was developed in part through a competition. The school that came up with the best new OS got some funding. My friends team came in second to the BSD folks.

Need sleep, haven't really in about 2 weeks now.


Oh, Red Hat, I have installed it on a dell desktop, 4 laptops, quantex, quantex laptop, IBM netfinity, and a compaq with no problems or needs for downloads.

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GimmeShelter
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 11:08 PM      
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and....... your point is.....
(13 E-mails from a thread from yesteryear,
please
ALL GEEKS START A NEW THREAD!

kill this thread please .........

(whew) ::: shakes head and leaves :::
.............................






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Kid Afrika
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 11:33 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

and....... your point is.....
(13 E-mails from a thread from yesteryear,
please
ALL GEEKS START A NEW THREAD!

kill this thread please .........


What the fuck is that supposed to mean?


AM and Kwyjibo, the machine he installed RedHat on was a POS, all generic parts. I don't know exactly what problems he had, but he spent a lot of time on the phone.

I've been tempted to install Linux on one of my machines, but I guess I'm just not up for the challenge right now.

Especially after my feeble attempts to use the Unix box I have already.



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GimmeShelter
posted on 06-26-2001 @ 11:56 PM      
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Shoot me for replying to this topic,and checking the reply box....
see I really dont give a fuck anymore.......



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Kid Afrika
posted on 06-27-2001 @ 12:02 AM      
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quote:

see I really dont give a fuck anymore


Did you ever? I must have missed that part.

Thanks for adding to the thread though, really...



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Kwyjibo
posted on 06-27-2001 @ 8:47 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Kid, I would go with Winbe Proxy and maybe the commercial level of zonealarm. If you willing to spend a little $$ go with the SMC Barricade, 4 ports, built in print server. I think I posted that earlier, oh well.

You could also go with something like BlackIce defender for the firewall. Whatever you use make sure it is set to drop packets, not deny them. By denying it tells the outside world you are there and sometimes they can tell what program you are using. By dropping your machine just doesn't respond.

Kwyjibo


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DasDoomper
posted on 06-27-2001 @ 8:54 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
I'm thinking about building a Linux machine, just to start messing around an learing Linux. I would like to have my own server someday for my websites. Which do you guys recommend, Red Hat or SuSe? the SuSe box looks like it comes with a lot of documentation and a DVD.

Opinions?



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Kwyjibo
posted on 06-27-2001 @ 10:15 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
I personally have only used Red Hat. Something else you can do is Sun allows you to download home versions of Solaris. Red Hat does a nice job and is easy to update. Using RPM's is great.

Kwyjibo


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King f-tard
posted on 06-27-2001 @ 10:42 AM      
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I have a set of discs for solaris 2.8 (I think, the new one) for the X86 platform (standard PC) but the laptop I want to put it on, can not boot from the CD, and I dont know how to install it. I downloaded red hat, to put it on there, but I havent done it yet. I am not very good with unix/linux. Does anyone know some sites that have good detailed instructions on how to install? Most sites I have seen just expect you to be an expert, or at least know something about unix. I am great with windows, but unix, I know 2 commands, and thats it.





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onehung lo434
posted on 07-21-2001 @ 10:22 AM      
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MII300
128 ram
No 3d
W 98
11gig hd
I have a ? for you guys.I have a cyrix mII300 processor right now,And it just isnt cutting the mustard anymore.I've been checking out sites all morning looking for info on upgrading and I can't find the answer I'm looking for.Can I pick up an MII700 and throw that in? Or //Whats the best that I can upgrade to from what I have here excluding buying a new puter? I Tried getting to cyrix.com itself,But the damn thing is down.
Thanks for any input




Kid Afrika
posted on 07-21-2001 @ 10:35 AM      
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onehung, recently I picked up a PIII 1GHz processor for $230 at a computer show. I don't know how much cyrix processors are going for but, I've never been disappointed by pentiums. Although, I hear that AMD processors are also good and they are cheaper than pentiums. My suggestion would be to upgrade your motherboard, processor and RAM. The bus speed of newer processors is faster than your current machine, so they will probably be incompatible.


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onehung lo434
posted on 07-21-2001 @ 10:45 AM      
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quote:

My suggestion would be to upgrade your motherboard, processor and RAM.


Thats what I'm trying to do.I allready did the ram,But,(from 96 to 128)I still need more.I'll get a new motherboard when I figure out which processor I can get.The cyrix processors I've seen for sale are dirt cheap (85$) for the 700,But if it isn't going to work I'm not going to bother.
*Edit*
After further review,I see I need to upgrade the motherboard First,Because the one thats on here will only support a 333,Which isn't much of an upgrade from 300...Ok so Now my ? is what can I get for a motherboard? Man this sucks :)





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posted on 07-21-2001 @ 2:45 PM      
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cyrix mII300 processor right now,And it just isnt cutting the mustard anymore.


Did it ever cut the mustard?

I dunno, I lost ALL faith in Cyrix when they started with shit like their processors like "M166+ at 133 MHz".... their schtick was that the actual clock speed of the processor was 133 but it PERFORMED like a 166, so they called it a 166. That's when I gave up on Cyrix, wrote them off as shit.

So did most other people, cause the company tanked.

I've seen problems with AMD chips (especially running 3D games) but that was with K6-2's.... I haven't heard whether Athlons have the same problem or not.

I've been sticking with Intel myself. You can probably find a nice board and processor at a computer show for a decent price.

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posted on 07-21-2001 @ 4:12 PM      
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Hp Pavilion
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A sound card 32MB I think?
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Video card .. who the hell knows ?
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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 07-21-2001 @ 5:20 PM      
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Athlons are amazing performers. In some cases they work better than Intels. You could get a 1.4 Ghz Athlon for $160 and a motherboard for $100 or so. Definitely go for the Athlon it has the same performance as an Pentium and is a lot cheaper.



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posted on 07-31-2001 @ 11:51 AM      
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UGH!!!!! OK, need a computer geek...My boss downloaded a Love Bug Virus this morning and it went in her Outlook Express Deleted Items folder... I quarantined it and deleted it, but I still can use that folder in OL to delete junk mail, it says that the folder cannot be displayed due to low memory or low storage space...Any help here????????? Thank you if you can help ...




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