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FoundryMusicJeff
posted on 09-11-2001 @ 10:26 PM      
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Did anyone else find the President's speech a little lacking in everything I needed to hear? I doubt anybody will be talking about that hack if a speech in the future.

Here's an idea I've been pondering. Four plain clothes security personnel. Two int he front, two in the back. Armed and trained in hostage negotiation and hand to hand combat...on EVERY FUCKING FLIGHT.

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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 10:37 PM      
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quote:

Here's an idea I've been pondering. Four plain clothes security personnel. Two int he front, two in the back. Armed and trained in hostage negotiation and hand to hand combat...on EVERY FUCKING FLIGHT.

Amen Jeff! How fucking hard is it to have security on these flights? Are the airlines that much of tightwads that they can't spend the extra money on this? What, would they rather save money instead of lives?



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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 10:37 PM      
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it was VERY lacking...i was expecting much more, but, considering who the presidnet is, i guess it isnt that much of a suprise
and the negotiator is a good idea, but not with weapons.it's far to easy to miss with a gun shot, and if you shot the wrong spot on a plane, the bullet goes out, and then you get massive decompression.but unarmed combat skills would work


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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 10:38 PM      
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Unfortunately George W. is a puppet leader, he's a puppet for his party, so he does not inspire confidence. He doesn't instill faith in the government, and he doesn't portray any degree of resolve or strength. It is difficult to rally around a man like him.


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FoundryMusicJeff
posted on 09-11-2001 @ 10:44 PM      
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I totally agree Froy..his fucking beady little eyes...all close together...what a slimy guy.


As for
quote:

it's far to easy to miss with a gun shot, and if you shot the wrong spot on a plane, the bullet goes out, and then you get massive decompression.but unarmed combat skills would work



i was thinking maybe like those taser guns that shoot lines into the subject...or how about...even better...you lock out the cock pit, make it air tight, and pump sleeping gas into the body of the airplane...knock out everyone, they tie up the bad guys...

bottom line is...there are WAYS to secure that plane against hijacking...why NOBODY has implemented in-air measures just blows my mind..

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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 10:45 PM      
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quote:

Here's an idea I've been pondering. Four
plain clothes security personnel. Two int he
front, two in the back. Armed and trained in
hostage negotiation and hand to hand combat...on
EVERY FUCKING FLIGHT.
Would that just be in
First Class?




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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 10:51 PM      
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The details aren't really important...point is they can do SOMETHING for those people up there....

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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 10:51 PM      
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He showed no emotion at all. It was unbeliveable. Not even a fist pounding the desk or anything!! Well he is my comander in chief and I will support his order. They just can't soon enough. God bless America and God Damn those responsible!!



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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 10:53 PM      
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Unfortunately, as good as the plan sounds Jeff, there were 40,000 flights cancelled today, that means we would need 160,000 trained personnel, to give you an idea how many that is, the U.S.M.C.'s charter does not allow them to go over 200,000 soldiers.

One thing we may need to do is institute a more stringent search of travelers baggage, much like customs on international flights. Sure, we will all be cranky and delayed, but we might just avoid 20,000 deaths.



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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 10:58 PM      
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Actually Jeff, I was watching ABC, and they said that they are thinking about implementing air marshalls on flights which would be essentially what you were talking about.

I am supposed to go to Florida in January and I would pay an additional $100 if it meant I would be safe....


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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 11:02 PM      
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quote:

bottom line is...there are WAYS to secure that plane against hijacking...why NOBODY has implemented in-air measures just blows my mind..


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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 11:05 PM      
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Text of Bush's address
September 11, 2001 Posted: 10:39 PM EDT (0239 GMT)



Good evening.




Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts.

The victims were in airplanes or in their offices -- secretaries, businessmen and women, military and federal workers. Moms and dads. Friends and neighbors.

Thousands of lives were suddenly ended by evil, despicable acts of terror.

The pictures of airplanes flying into buildings, fires burning, huge structures collapsing, have filled us with disbelief, terrible sadness and a quiet, unyielding anger.

These acts of mass murder were intended to frighten our nation into chaos and retreat. But they have failed. Our country is strong. A great people has been moved to defend a great nation.

Terrorist attacks can shake the foundations of our biggest buildings, but they cannot touch the foundation of America. These acts shatter steel, but they cannot dent the steel of American resolve.

America was targeted for attack because we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining.

Today, our nation saw evil, the very worst of human nature, and we responded with the best of America, with the daring of our rescue workers, with the caring for strangers and neighbors who came to give blood and help in any way they could.

Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government's emergency response plans. Our military is powerful, and it's prepared. Our emergency teams are working in New York City and Washington, D.C., to help with local rescue efforts.

Our first priority is to get help to those who have been injured and to take every precaution to protect our citizens at home and around the world from further attacks.

The functions of our government continue without interruption. Federal agencies in Washington which had to be evacuated today are reopening for essential personnel tonight and will be open for business tomorrow.

Our financial institutions remain strong, and the American economy will be open for business as well.

The search is underway for those who are behind these evil acts. I've directed the full resources for our intelligence and law enforcement communities to find those responsible and bring them to justice. We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.

I appreciate so very much the members of Congress who have joined me in strongly condemning these attacks. And on behalf of the American people, I thank the many world leaders who have called to offer their condolences and assistance.

America and our friends and allies join with all those who want peace and security in the world and we stand together to win the war against terrorism.

Tonight I ask for your prayers for all those who grieve, for the children whose worlds have been shattered, for all whose sense of safety and security has been threatened. And I pray they will be comforted by a power greater than any of us spoken through the ages in Psalm 23: "Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for You are with me."

This is a day when all Americans from every walk of life unite in our resolve for justice and peace. America has stood down enemies before, and we will do so this time.

None of us will ever forget this day, yet we go forward to defend freedom and all that is good and just in our world.

Thank you. Good night and God bless America.


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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 11:12 PM      
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why cant every person have a parachute available for situations like this. i know jumping out with a parachute is very risky but its better then the other option of crashing into a certain death


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FoundryMusicJeff
posted on 09-11-2001 @ 11:52 PM      
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Parachutes? When would they have time to use them? Do you know how fast those planes go? How high? The wind shear/temperatures would be deadly...

I want everyont to take a moment and listen to this MP3 file I made of the FDR "Day of Infamy" Speech and compare the tone and execution of a GREAT leader to the puppet fuck we now have in office. LISTEN to a great man who knew how to defend a country, and think of how far we've gone down the shit spiral by electing our current idiot.

A great man...click here for MP3

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posted on 09-11-2001 @ 11:54 PM      
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FDR is a personal hero of mine. He was a natural leader, he knew how to rally support, and he knew how to strike a nerve. FDR was eloquent always the consummate orator. There are few people before or since who could put keep their finger on the pulse of the nation like Roosevelt. His type of leadership is what this country needs right now.


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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 12:04 AM      
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FMJeff and Froy...I was saying the same thing to my parents...Bush appeared to be stoic and unaffected by today's tradgedy. We as a nation need to feel that we have a strong leader who isn't scared, but rather prepared to lead our nation forward from such horrifying events.


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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 12:10 AM      
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First off, I want to say that I REALLY dont like George W in the slightest. I believe is a complete imbacile. However, when in comes to the recent events of horror, I believe that Bush Jr will lead this nation to justice. In times like this, we absolutly want a dumb redneck in office. Why? Because theres nothing he loves more than taking people's lives and flexing his muscles. I'm not asking anyone to change their political view and values. But I believe that we should have a little faith in our Commander in Chief. I really believe he will take the right path with this one. After all, he's always talking with his daddy. And we all know if it were up to Bush senior, he'd have every sand nigger in the country kicked into concentration camps like the japanese during WWII.

I may not know any of you board members personally. Or ever know any of you. But I just wanted to say in light of today's events that I pray that all of you and your familes and friends are safe and healthy. God Bless.


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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 12:23 AM      
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Very lame speech indeed. When he was done I had this "That's it?" feeling. I just hope that we retaliate in some aspect in a timely manner.

As for the security of the flights I would suggest training & arming the pilots and making the cockpits sealed somehow.







FoundryMusicJeff
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 1:29 AM      
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If there's one thing I do know...through all the conspiracy theories...conjectures, predictions, suspicions...etc., the one constant is the government doing the best to preserve the might of this nation and thier own jobs. It's all about looking good, and trust me...we look like bitches now...we WILL respond. I only hope it isn't a botched attempt like the Patriot Missle hoax during the Gulf Wars...

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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 2:15 AM      
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You sick fucks. You almost make me want to vomit. The idea that you would use this time to attack our president to make your politcal ideas better then the other political parties is discusting. Who cares how long the speech was? Should we have listened to 4 hours of clinton talking on and on and on and say how we should defund the armed forces and give the money to the bastards that attacked us.

He told us everything we needed to know. Right now none knows anything about what really is going on. They will hunt down the evil fucks and hold nations that help them accountable.

FDR was a power hungry slob who ran for the office for 4 times and died during the fourth. 13 or 14 years of the same man who is the reason that we had to change the custom of not running for more then two terms into law.

Republicans and Democrats are both liars and cheats and should all be thrown out of office.

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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 5:39 AM      
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I was more moved by many of the posts I've read today than by the President's speach. Gookkilla, I'm not so sure that we're attacking the President as much as we are reacting to the lack of compassion and urgency he seems to be showing throughout this ordeal.


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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 6:23 AM      
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I do not like dubbya but I have faith he will (or I should say we will) rise to the top and take our vengance on the bastards who did this horrible act..as for airlines ...why can't they make the door to the cockpit like a vault door instead of a closet door..???

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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 7:38 AM      
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i really dont care what he sayes to tell you the truth.its what he does i care about.if he dosnt remove afganastan from the map i will never understand it.nor will i vote any more.


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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 10:03 AM      
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i didn't vote for either bush or gore last nov, but i don't think that clinton would do anything more then bush is doing now, hell he loved "partying" with the arabs. for whatever it's worth, they should have hit afganastan(sp) last night, and wait till the morning to tell everyone what they were doing. who cares what anybody else thinks, they weren't hit with acts of terror.
as for the security at the airports, i think that all they need to do is more x-ray machines, better ones, for both hand luggage and suitcases. i'm willing to bet money that there were bombs under the planes, and no one knew about it, much like no one knew that there was a hijacking until it was too late.

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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 10:22 AM      
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The 1 man who would of done something would of been Ronald Regan. He would of already been overseas kicking Towel ASS!



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