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IkeaBoy
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posted on 07-16-2001 @ 3:47 PM      
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I haven't seen a thread about it but I did get the magazine today. It doesn't paint them in a favorable light and mentions gay stuff a lot.

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the man we want to be
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Arpikarhu
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posted on 07-16-2001 @ 4:12 PM      
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i didnt think it was that bad. it used some pretty broad strokes but otherwise ok.

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mikeWOW
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posted on 07-16-2001 @ 4:25 PM      
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he really doesnt get the show. the reporter thinks its all T&A

"i hate people that dont get it!"
spitfire421
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 4:51 PM      
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Please forgive me if this has been posted before but you may find this interesting...while I was looking in the Electric Library to see if the Time article was up yet, I found this in the Washington Times from last month written by WWF-hater head of the PTC (sorry if this belongs in teh Dead Horse Forum...at least I didn't start a new topic LOL :P)

quote:

Cultural currents
( The Washington Times ) L. Brent Bozell III; 06-24-2001


Two news stories on consecutive days last week tell us where popular culture is heading. Hint: It's not a pretty sight.
On June 15, Inside.com carried an article by Jesse Oxfeld about the new $30 million, three-year contract for the popular New York afternoon drive-time radio team of Opie and Anthony. I had never heard of these fellows, but apparently they're real trailblazers where airwave pollution is concerned.

Peter Goodman of Newsday stated last year that O&A have "gone beyond [Howard Stern] in vulgarity." Their listenership, he wrote, is "primarily young men who enjoy . . . the kind of talk that was once limited to locker rooms and particularly nasty bars."

Last summer, there was a ruckus on the "Today" show when a woman in the audience flashed her bare breasts on camera. She was taking part in O&A's "Whip 'Em Out Wednesday" campaign, which encourages women to expose themselves in such a manner on that day.

But that's nothing to the O&A community. As Mr. Goodman reported this past March, "One recent afternoon, [O&A were] listening to songs such as `Baby Raper' while stepfathers called in and described their fantasies about teen-age stepdaughters."


Opie and Anthony work for the same company as Mr. Stern - Infinity, part of the sleazy Viacom empire - and it seems Infinity wants them to be to afternoons what Mr. Stern, who airs in roughly 45 markets, is to mornings. According to Inside.com, O&A will now air on "22 other Infinity-owned stations in the top 50 markets, and further syndication [is] in the works."

Talkers magazine editor Michael Harrison says O&A's contract "signifies that . . . a major company the size of [Viacom] thinks that this new style of broadcasting is . . . significant enough to put major marketing and financial effort behind it. . . . The simple meaning is, `Wow, raunch is big.' I think the bigger meaning is that stockholders and the corporate nature of media [sic] will do anything for a profit." Mr. Harrison is right about that anything-for-a-profit part, but he's wrong about a supposed "new style" of radio. Not only is raunch far from new, but the ascent of Opie and Anthony is yet another indication that it has become the Establishment style. Given Mr. Stern's current, and O&A's soon-to-be, wide reach, and who knows how many local garbagemouths littering dials from coast to coast, it's a lot easier to see a bright future for raunch radio than for the approach represented by Paul Harvey.


In fact, in Mr. Harvey's hometown, Chicago, the last television show to star Bozo the Clown is a wrap, canceled by WGN.

Bozo premiered there in June 1960. "Once upon a time," wrote John W. Fountain in the June 14 New York Times, "for many [Chicago] children there seemed nothing better than . . . Bozo and his hourlong show filled with games, cartoons and slapstick comedy, like a pie in the face or a bucket of water."

That was a long time ago. Today, a 58-year-old Chicago mother of two told the Times, children "are much more sophisticated. At the age where they should be wanting to wait for tickets for Bozo, they' re playing those little video games. . . . Kids want fireworks, kids want smoke. They want something more."

When it comes to wholesome, classic comedy, be it Bozo, the Harlem Globetrotters, Lucille Ball, or Laurel and Hardy, less is more. That wisdom, alas, often seems utterly foreign to today's sensation-seeking young people, and to plenty of adults as well.

Chicago-area native Billy Corgan, leader of the now-disbanded Smashing Pumpkins, performed Bob Dylan's "Forever Young" on the Bozo finale. Mr. Corgan, who is 34, remarked in the Chicago Tribune: "I can't remember not watching the show. For me, it was an innocent thing in a pretty turbulent childhood."

In a real sense, turbulent childhoods are now the norm. A study released in late May by Sesame Workshop, the creators of "Sesame Street," found that "nearly two-thirds of children (ages 6-11) asked to state their fears vividly depicted intense, unsettling anxieties about guns, death and violence. Among 9- to 11-year-olds, the proportion climbed to three-fourths." Perhaps not coincidentally, "three-fourths of 9- to 11-year-olds cited the media room as the `heart of their home,' " and "60 percent of boys specifically said the TV was the main attraction in [that] room."

The loss of one show in one city isn't the end of the world; high- quality children's programming is still out there. But what is being eroded, systematically and deliberately eroded, is the simple respect for the innocence of the child. It's easy to blame the Viacoms of the world. But check your portfolio: Are you a shareholder?

L. Brent Bozell III is president of the Media Research Center and the Parent's Television Council.

L. Brent Bozell III, Cultural currents. , The Washington Times, 06-24-2001, pp B3.


FUCKING SCUMBAG!


Dad: Where do you get your values? From that stinking heavy metal music you listen to day and night?
Joe: Yeah, that's it, man. It's all the music! You know everything is just fine until we just listen to a couple of heavy metal albums. Then we get all fucked up!

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drkn2forget
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 4:55 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
Look how hot we're getting....Jesus??

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Sloatsburgh
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 4:58 PM      
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Fucking Scumbag??

No, this guy is a cock smoker who hates fraternities, beer, and pussy. That's all. He doesn't "get it" because he is trying to act/appeal to women.

BTW, no one talked about "fantasies" with their step-daughters, but then again, we all know that.







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Harry Ballzanya
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 4:58 PM      
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Registered: May. 01
is that an old picture?

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IkeaBoy
P.L.F.
Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal
I will die a traitor's death
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 5:02 PM      
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Imagine the chants tonight at the Beacon. I'm so pissed I can't go.

The narrator in Fight Club is the man we will be, Patrick Bateman in American Psycho is
the man we want to be
Eliza Dushku- Hotter Than
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spitfire421
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 5:03 PM      
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Registered: Dec. 00
Actually, his father was one of McCarthy's closest friends and advisors...gee isn't that just great!

I think he's just trying ot revive that era of total fear and censorship by completely convoluting facts and figures to make scared parents donate more money to his pointless campaign "to free children from the harmful affects of media"....because we all know that's the source of the school shootings and teen sexuality and drug use.


Dad: Where do you get your values? From that stinking heavy metal music you listen to day and night?
Joe: Yeah, that's it, man. It's all the music! You know everything is just fine until we just listen to a couple of heavy metal albums. Then we get all fucked up!

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whichwaymediumorrare
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 5:05 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Apr. 01
whats that dudes problem.that guy is gay.i hate the fact that theses tools cant write a article with out compareing O+A and howard cumguzzler.there shows are so different.also is this guy talking about bozo the clown.holy shit.


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IkeaBoy
P.L.F.
Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal
I will die a traitor's death
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 5:09 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
I totally hate people like that. I don't know why people think that it's the media that causes all the problems with the world it isn't and with people like him and Bush trying to re-spark a cold war we might be heading back into a 1950-like era of fear, censorship, innocents accused, etc.

Who will be the first person to write the update to the book about how Comic Books caused Delinquency in Youths. (who was that guy again, you know the guy, he wrote it in the 1950s)

The narrator in Fight Club is the man we will be, Patrick Bateman in American Psycho is
the man we want to be
Eliza Dushku- Hotter Than
Britney

geedagreek
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 5:18 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Sep. 00
interesting part of that articleis the part of kids 6-11 being afraid of guns and violence....in the 50's and 60's it was the a-bomb, so thats a weak statement.......kids will always find stuff to be scared of, what's the big deal?Parents have to learn how to speak to their kids about this, not blame tv, who the parents use as a babysitter half the F'N time!!!!

my favorite Otto & George line-"I'll stab you in the c*ck with a gyro knife..."
whichwaymediumorrare
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 5:31 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Apr. 01
if somebody has the time article,please post it.this doesnt sound to good.


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geedagreek
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 5:33 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
remember, TIME is owned by Time Warner, who is direct competitors with Viacom......hmmmmmm, can somebody say Politics????

my favorite Otto & George line-"I'll stab you in the c*ck with a gyro knife..."
TheGooch
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posted on 07-16-2001 @ 5:42 PM      
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Time magazine has been out of touch for years. The fact that they completely missed the point hasn't surprised me one bit. Bunch of overpaid hacks trying to do half-witted articles. Best issue of Time magazine is the one you have in the can when you run out of toilet paper.

jewdown
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 5:42 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
This prick Joel is a friggin smug wise ass cock sucker!
He doesn't seem to give a flying F what O&A think about the article.
What a dick!



Drink up and go Home!
IkeaBoy
P.L.F.
Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal
I will die a traitor's death
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 5:52 PM      
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Joel did seem a bit smitted with Opie. "Opie was intiminating....just like I like my men"

The narrator in Fight Club is the man we will be, Patrick Bateman in American Psycho is
the man we want to be
Eliza Dushku- Hotter Than
Britney

TheGooch
Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh?
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 6:28 PM      
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IF you go see what this guy writes for TIME, you'll realize that this whole coverage of O&A was just a lark. This guy does quick Q&A's with some stars. There's no depth to his work. They are simple comedy side-bars. This guy was in over his head to try to write a feature.

I Rooned It
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 6:56 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
This is time magazine we are talking about. They suck up to middle America and the best way to do this is by ostricizing anything creative or different.

Besides wait until RS comes out, those writer are more talented and insightful, and the magazine appeals more to O and A's audience.


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PeterDragon
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 7:04 PM      
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Now I'll preface this by saying I havent read article, just heard todays show....

Gooch seems to have it completely. Stein seemed to like the show; it was just that his purpose was to throw a few "shocking" lines in the article, and Time editors put it together to fit their pre-conceived notion. He's a tool, but nothing more.

King f-tard
posted on 07-16-2001 @ 7:37 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
I heard them talking about it today, and when Op read it, I realized that it is a fluff piece, but not written very well, nor is it even written by someone who did any research on the subject.

Although I find it funny that Ants comments are solely about the Olsen twins, and how hot they have become. And I agree, Ashley is the goer. :)





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TeenWeek
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posted on 07-17-2001 @ 8:45 AM      
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You can go to the Time website andd send Joel Stein any comments about his articles. Here is the link (not his e-mail address) to make it easier for everybody to let him now how much we appreciate his article.

Send your comments to Joel Stein


Dan
posted on 07-17-2001 @ 1:46 PM      
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Lately, Joel Stein has also been writing a
piece in the opening section of the magazine.
It's usually about a page long and a comedic
look on something. He's done articles on his
Day with the Stanley Cup and a Night he
Bounced at Club Envy in NYC...I actually
thought he was pretty funny and have laughed
out loud at some of the things he's written. As
a writer myself, I looked up to him.

But, in this article he was writing a feature and
at no time tried to be funny. He obviously had
an agenda (in case you don't know, "frat" is
intellectual elitest code for dumb). I don't
know whether it was that he is a Stern Fan
(the line about Stern being transgressive and
O&A being realpolitik is suspect as is the line
about Stern interviewing strippers). Or, it
could be the Time-Warner/Viacom conspiracy
theory. Or, it could simply be that he was
writing for a supposed audience the he thinks
won't like the show.

Either way, O&A were in fucking TIME
MAGAZINE...our boys are all growns up!


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spitfire421
posted on 07-18-2001 @ 1:17 PM      
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Here's the whole article, like it or not...

Can We Talk A Little More About Breasts? Shock jocks Opie and Anthony go national ...

You might not think people would choose to listen to conversations in a frat house. Yet every afternoon Opie and Anthony spend four hours calling each other gay, drooling over hot moms and barraging women to "whip 'em out." It's not even a carefully constructed frat chat: an hour before airtime, six staff members, all guys, sit around watching Jackass, shooting baskets and occasionally surfing news websites. They're less like people preparing for a radio show than people waiting for a pizza.

The office even looks like a frat house. Porno tapes line the bookshelves. Opie's desk, littered with such research material as Maxim, FHM, Stuff and Seventeen, is flanked by two Britney Spears posters. Anthony's desk, littered with a Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen book, video and T shirt, sits under a poster of the twins. "Look how hot they're getting. And that's an old picture," Anthony says. On further inspection, he dismisses Mary-Kate as the priss. "Ashley is the goer."

The entire country will have a chance to hear what guys talk about when they're trying really hard to sound like guys. Infinity Broadcasting, the radio arm of Viacom, this month began syndicating The Opie & Anthony Show, based in New York City, to such cities as Chicago, Dallas and Philadelphia, and will soon have them on about 20 stations. Viacom hopes O&A can duplicate their ratings success in New York, where they are often No. 1 in their prime demographic-- men 25 to 49. Gregg (Opie) Hughes (he looks like Opie from The Andy Griffith Show), 36, and Anthony Cumia, 39, are the descendants of Howard Stern, replacing his sour trangressiveness with male realpolitik: while Stern interviews strippers, O&A just want them to take off their clothes.

Viacom also syndicates the flagging Stern, who is no fan of O&A. And vice versa. "He's been working off the same formula for a long time: Here's a girl, get naked, hoo hoo hoo," says Opie. "It's the same midgets, the same pinheads. For today's society, you have to keep things interesting." Interesting isn't always tasteful, as when Jay Mohr, the actor, comedian and frequent guest, sang the song Full Blown AIDS, making fun of AIDS patients.

But O&A are often clever, hammering at the outer band of humor that gets laughs from discomfort. Like listening to a gay man perform oral sex on a woman for 'N Sync tickets. Or playing the silent game, where they book bad guests and let them wallow in dead air. They call it cringe radio, at once punk and frat, like Blink-182 or Fred Durst. It's The Man Show without all that annoying polish. The program has a real garage feeling, with staff members walking in and out of the studio, twisting knobs, grabbing papers. There is no separate producer's booth: Opie twiddles his own knobs.

But what O&A are most famous for is "Whip 'em Out Wednesdays," when women are encouraged to flash guys who have WOW bumper stickers on their cars, or even just the staff of a live Today show, as a listener did last summer. And while Stern has to import porn stars, O&A have little trouble finding young women to play along. "I think it gives women some power," Opie explains. When asked what he means by that, he leans his chair back against the conference-room window and says, "That's a good question. What do I mean by that?"

Even though Anthony does some great impersonations and some middling song parodies, this is, in the end, a talk show about breasts. "You can go to other talk stations," says Opie, "but they talk about politics and stuff my dad is interested in. Who cares?" And O&A listeners, unlike those of most call-in shows, don't call in with questions but stay on the air to trade jokes, or just e-mail them in to be read on air. Since their home station, WNEW-FM, spends little advertising the show, the jocks have built their audience by putting on road shows, inviting listeners to drinks at Hooters or handing out bumper stickers from a bus. As working-class guys from Long Island, O&A have a knack for making their often not so bright fans seem interesting--and integral. "Some guy shows up with a case of beer, and half an hour later he's on our show," says Opie.

Sometimes they'll even pretend to listen to people outside the frat. "If a group gets p_____ off at something we're doing--say, the gay community--and a guy calls in, and he's gay and articulate and doesn't have too gay a voice, we give him an open forum," says Opie, slipping into a moment of earnestness. Then he snaps out of it. "Then we call him a f_____ and bring on the next stripper."

"Other talk stations talk about politics and stuff my dad is interested in. Who cares?" GREG (OPIE) HUGHES




Dad: Where do you get your values? From that stinking heavy metal music you listen to day and night?
Joe: Yeah, that's it, man. It's all the music! You know everything is just fine until we just listen to a couple of heavy metal albums. Then we get all fucked up!

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WoundedAngel
Absolutely spectacular, and 1337 as hell.
posted on 07-18-2001 @ 2:59 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Thanks for the article, spitfire. I thought Opie was the one who only made an Olsen twin comments throughout the whole article...or maybe I just wasn't listening correctly.
Nonetheless, the article is mostly crap. I get the feeling that it tries to portay Stern as at least an interviewer, meanwhile, all Opie and Anthony do is sit there, make fart noises, persuade women to get naked, and make fun of gay people. Shit, if it was that over and over, don't you think it would get old pretty damn quick?




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