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| ajax = art | posted on 07-19-2001 @ 9:14 PM |    | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jul. 01  | I live in Philly and just started listening to O&A this past week, since they've been syndicated here. I also listen to Howard Stern (Stern and the O&A shows happen to be on the same station). I used to think Howard's bitching, moaning, and complaining about people ripping him off was just him being insecure and paranoid. Until I heard the O&A show. About 90% of everything O&A have done in the week I've listened to them, I've heard on Stern's show at some point since I started listening to him (1996). A couple examples: - Making fun of interns. No one on radio even acknowledged the existence of their interns until Howard did. I heard O&A making fun of their intern today about the websites the intern visits. - Sound effects/background noises (ie. farting noises, etc). No one on radio did this until the Stern show did. O&A (and every other DJ in the country) do it now. - The general vocabulary of the show. I heard O&A say "F You" to people several times. No one on radio would dare say this until Howard started this. I heard someone on the O&A show say "faggot" while coughing. No one on radio said this until Howard did. I'm not saying O&A aren't funny, because they are. But just about everything they do on their show, I could hear in the morning by listening to Stern. If O&A actually came up with their own material, they'd be an extremely entertaining show. But what they do now, is the exact same thing as what Stern does. I know I'm going to get railed for saying all this, but it's the truth. O&A are just Howard imitators. | ||||
| mikeWOW | posted on 07-19-2001 @ 9:34 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | come on. nobody ever acknowledged interns?? how do you know that?? sound effects?? come on, what do u expect no1 to ever use a sound effect. you know what- i cant do this. you are another ignorant brainwashed person. hopefully you will understand the show in the upcoming weeks and learn, AS WE ALL DID IN NEW YORK AND BOSTON, that the shows are VERY much different. hope to see ya aorund bud "i hate people that dont get it!" | ||||
| Rone | posted on 07-19-2001 @ 10:15 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: this is so far from the truth. O&A have done so many original things, and are truly innovative. listen to the show for a little longer and you will see how different they are from stern and how original their stuff is.  | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 07-19-2001 @ 10:38 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: -snip Ajax, you can't be serious. Howard was not the originator. Howard took what was done before, and pushed the envelope, yes. But a lot of those things were done YEARS before. I used to listen to Howard, from his afternoon days at "WNNNNNNBC", through the startup of K-rock (it was Disco 92), up until around a year ago. If you ever heard early Stern, he even said how others did certain things, Especially the sound effects. Howard used to play a record of an old 60's DJ who made a record filled with him talking and sound effects. The berating interns isn't new either; Stern did make it an art form though. O&A acknowledged that Howard influenced them, just as Howard early on acknowledged people who influenced him. - Lenny Bruce, etc. Howard likes to say he patented everything. Radio is full of people who like to take what works and shape it for themselves. The question is: Are they funny? Are they interesting? That's the only important question. | ||||
| BawxedWine | posted on 07-19-2001 @ 10:57 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | cough:faggott:cough Girls get moist for the Chevy Blazer. | ||||
| ~FallenAingL~ Unofficial Biggest Whore of OA.com G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Reaver Strike Battalion Rage Brother #1, Paladin of Hatred Where's my snare? I have no snare in my headphones. | posted on 07-19-2001 @ 11:05 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jun. 01 | Alex = Very Biased Sorry man, but you look to be the epitome of brainwashed. You got your own opinion, but you state it in a very uninformed way. Listen for more than a week and come back. I concur with Mike and Peter fully, they just beat me to the punch.  Semper Fi, FallenAingL "May You Find Peace Here, Raziel..." - Ariel "Give me the bat, feggit." - Jim Bruer This message was edited by ~FallenAingL~ on 7-20-01 @ 1:04 PM | ||||
| fbdlingfrg wow, my name looks odd without 5 lines of type below it in bold and purple and red G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Red Wings Captain Cecil JBA~Remove the Pick & Click NOW! | posted on 07-19-2001 @ 11:06 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | o&a do rip off stern all the time...stren invented talk radio, naked women, masculine locker room talk, calling people f**s, and making fun of the news last time, the insects got me, but  | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 07-19-2001 @ 11:18 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Let's just say that you're right. Sure. Now, how interesting would the show be?? Opie - "It was an intern using my computer going to those websites." Anthony - "Maybe we can bring him in and talk to him about it." Opie - "Can't do that, uh, that's Howard's gig." The bit is now rooned. I won't even go into the sound effects comment, that's just ignorant. But farting noises? Must've missed those... Anthony - "F you!" Opie - "You can't say F, that's ripping Howard off." Anthony - "Ok, Fuck you!" O&A are now fined $2 million by the FCC. But at least they're not ripping off Howard. But wait, didn't he get fined by the FCC? Damn...maybe they should just quit radio. But I'm sure Howard quit something once too, so they'd still be ripoffs. Tool.  | ||||
| BawxedWine | posted on 07-19-2001 @ 11:53 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | sarcasm/ yeah O&A do rip Howard off at every chance. Stern gets divorced, his ratings go up. So Ant goes and gets himself a divorce and in the process loses all his cool belongings and has his one good suit given to a homeless man. Wow, O&A are pathetic. /end sarcasm Girls get moist for the Chevy Blazer. | ||||
| I Rooned It | posted on 07-20-2001 @ 12:08 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | In no way did Howard patent those idea, nor did he invent them. All he did was get really big and bought attention to it. Switch roles for a minute. Had OandA rose to stardom in the 80's, wrote 2 books, made a movie, etc., and if Howard just got syndicated a month ago, everyone like Ajax would be bashing Howard. The point is, is that the two parties have some similar ideas, and they are/were cutting edge. Does this mean that any envelope pushing will be criticized as a rip off? No! Should all radio shows sound like Dr. Laura because it won't rip off the "shock jock" format. NO! Because of critics like Ajax, anything considered fun or "hot" has to be shot down because of jealousy. You Give Me Head, It Makes it Worse. Take out Your Fucking Retainer, put it in Your Purse. ---Jello Biafra | ||||
| Unicron | posted on 07-20-2001 @ 5:13 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Mar. 01 | every howard fan says this.....you people are trying to reason with a brick wall, it ain't gonna happen, let him live in his howard world, and when Howard turns into Imus (which will happen) we shall see what this man does. But for now, i say the best argument is to just ignore people like Ajax here. | ||||
| Mayor of Sloatsburg | posted on 07-20-2001 @ 12:44 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | quote:This hasn't happened already? "Save my ups, deek." | ||||
| Filzy Stand up straight Stomach in Shoulders back SOUND OFF!!! | posted on 07-20-2001 @ 8:37 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Another Stern Chimp harassing the O&A gorilla society again by throwing their own feces. Man, it never stops, does it? Comparing Howard to O&A is like comparing a Chimpanzee to a Gorilla! Ajax, go listen to some other radio station then, Oh shit I forgot, your brainwashed, Howard forbids you to do so, so you act like the little Stern Chimp that you have been shaped to be. Oh and by the Mayor, Stern hasn't completly turned into Imus yet, Stern is too fucking greedy to donate to the Astoria fund for the NYFD like Imus did. If there is one thing that keeps Imus different from Stern, it's the fact that Imus has some sort of conscience, and he knows that he's an asshole. But not a heartless scumbag.  I'm not dead yet, sorry to roon your hopes! Two, TWO sucessful graduates: whichwaymediumorrare AND Short Hills Mall This message was edited by Filzy on 7-23-01 @ 8:56 PM | ||||
| kansei | posted on 07-20-2001 @ 9:09 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | quote: O&A are catering to the tastes of their listeners and themselves. Should O&A move to Mars in order to have a listenership that enjoys things 180 degrees different from those of Earth men?? Farts, yelling at people, and using an adolescent vocabulary is what we like. What else, pray tell, could anyone come up with that could possibly be different enough for the likes of you and Stern?? _______ O&A - radio crack - now available nationwide. | ||||
| electro134 | posted on 07-21-2001 @ 10:25 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jul. 01 | AJAX-Quit sniffing that shit it's a cleaning product and it f--d up your sense of reality--O & A just started here in chicago and I'm hooked I laughed my ass off when they were explaning the rusty trombone the other day--Any how Howierd has'ent invented any thing ,I have been a Steve Dahl fan for 23 years now and he was doing all that shit way before stern was even on the air, you better check out your history books before giving him credit..Even Dahl will admit he was influenced by others, it's all a matter of how you take ideas and improve on them. I think O & A are great and hope they get a better time slot out here soon.(9 pm.-11.pm-then 1 hour from 5am till 6 am.)they are f'n up my sleep schedual... mymnbh~~KMR~~ | ||||
| whichwaymediumorrare | posted on 07-21-2001 @ 10:35 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01 | ajax give the show 20 mins.if it dosen't make you laught well then ,ah en ahyou got the wrong station.i dont know. GRADUATED FROM THE HEADHUNTING SCHOOL OF FILZY | ||||
| ~FallenAingL~ Unofficial Biggest Whore of OA.com G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Reaver Strike Battalion Rage Brother #1, Paladin of Hatred Where's my snare? I have no snare in my headphones. | posted on 07-21-2001 @ 12:47 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jun. 01 | Sadly guys, I think Ajax and his little Ster.. (gags) .... Ster... (coughs) Howard crew... there... I think they are too far gone to be saved. Unfortunately, they will probably die next to their radio, clutching their withered junk and listening to the new Imus. (Quack Quack) Electro, its really cool to see that the O & A virus has laid eggs in your heart and are sprouting little bugs. =P That's awesome you have an open mind. And, whichway... It's, if you don't laugh in 20 minutes, you ahhh... win a toaster, I don't know. Semper Fi, FallenAingL "For all our bravado, we knew It meant only one thing when Kain drew the Soul Reaver in anger... it meant you were dead." -Raziel 'Reaver of Souls' | ||||
| Sarcastro | posted on 07-21-2001 @ 2:43 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Nov. 00 | Just one note on sound effects. Howard was the first to use them? Are you serious? Really, are you serious? Allow me to refer you to the birth of radio and old radio shows like The Shadow and others that, gasp, used sound effects to tell stories. Like gunshots, footsteps, etc. Wacky DJ's have been using bells and whistles for eons. Oh, and about calling people "faggots". Your general notion is that Howard revolutionized the use of language on radio, ignoring the fact that Howard didnt come about in a vacuum. Guys like Steve Dahl and Imus were pushing the envelope in their own ways for years before Howard. Howard fans always act like Howard just spontaneously came into being and that there were no DJ's or radio personalities before him. That noone ever did anything controversial before him(Hell, Orson Welles convinced an audience that martians had landed in New Jersey...you could probably call that the start of "shock" radio). There are many evolutionaries but very few revolutionaries. To put it another way, if other DJ's hadnt shown CBS that "extreme talk" could work, I doubt that they would have syndicated Howard in the first place or kept him around this long. | ||||
| o&aswallow | posted on 07-21-2001 @ 2:56 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Ajax is entitled his opinion and nothing we say will change it. I too used to listen to Stern and he used to be funny. O&A have raised the bar, The evolution of "shock radio" has taken another turn. Imus and Howard can't keep up with it. And Ajax, I respect your viewpoint but please, don't bring Dahl's name into this argument. Dahl appeased a Chicago style that wouldn't work anywhere else. I listened to Dahl years ago and if he wasn't on a hot station at the time and hadn't coined the Disco Destruction movement he wouldn't be around today. Chicago also had Brandmier and Bonaducci. Their acts never took off outside of Chicago. Bonaducci gave up and came to NYC and failed. And one more thought - Is everybody that sings in movies ripping off Al Jolsen? Does every astronaut that goes into space rip off Alan Sheppard? Are Bonds, Sosa and McGwire ripping off Babe Ruth?? I think you get the hint. Continue to Enjoy Stern if you wish and hopefully you will continue to listen to O&A.  o&aswallow Recognized His Destiny Early. Too Many Hotties, Not Enough Horny Goat Weed Now accepting foster children applications. Cash only, no checks. Email at [email protected] Frat Guy has rented one of the foster bedrooms as of 7/21. Yes ladies, another college boy is in town for you to ravage. It at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed. - Curly Howard. Pennsylvania resident, but original NYC listener. This message was edited by o&aswallow on 7-21-01 @ 3:12 PM | ||||
| MatrixOutSider | posted on 07-21-2001 @ 5:12 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 00 | Ajax, O and A are good imitators of Stern. They admit it, and give him props. However, they do take some of Howard's material and push it past the line Stern wouldn't step beyond. For example: O and A feature naked teens. For legal reasons, or because he has 2 teen daughters, Howard refuses to allow any young looking girl, even with id, to strip naked. Oh well, this is about the fairest post you will ever get out of me. | ||||
| MatrixOutSider | posted on 07-21-2001 @ 5:19 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 00 | People, You have to understand radio to realize that it's not important to find out who originated something. The important question is: Who made this popular FIRST? | ||||
| NJopposition | posted on 07-22-2001 @ 2:05 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | to the guy before, yea id say Welles definitley started "shock" radio, i mean goddamn he actually convinced a handful of people to KILL THEMSELVES because they believed martians had landed in NJ and were soon going to take over the world. wow, i dunno if thatll ever be topped, so i guess everyone is really in his shadow then, huh? hoohoo.... | ||||
| torture its torture | posted on 07-22-2001 @ 4:42 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Sep. 00 | Let's assume that howard did pioneer the usage of sound effects, intern bashing and everything else ( even though he didn't). You shouldn't say that O & A are ripping him off, they just are simply in the same genre as him. You will be able to see vague similarites in the shows because they are in the "shock jock" genre of radio. When the Beatles incorporated art into music with Sgt. Pepper's in the late 60's, do we dismiss bands such as Pink Floyd and Radiohead as copycats, just because they too include sound effects and other elements which turn simple music into works of art? No. O & A are much different than Stern, it's just the "shock jock" genre that's the same. | ||||
| Filzy Stand up straight Stomach in Shoulders back SOUND OFF!!! | posted on 07-22-2001 @ 7:06 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | It's amazing how Hollywood teaches you to blow smoke up your own ass. Stern is really good at it. I'm not dead yet, sorry to roon your hopes! Two, TWO sucessful graduates: whichwaymediumorrare AND Short Hills Mall | ||||
| mrbungle | posted on 07-23-2001 @ 1:03 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | Ajax, you, my friend, are obviously, a deek...Howard hasn't been funny for years, stop living in the past!!! O&A have done so much, and unlike Stern, do stuff for their fans...Howard is nothing more than a meglomaniacal jackass with very little talent... The only thing I disagree with is Imus comparisons with Stern, 'cause at least Imus admits he's changed with the times...he admits he's an asshole... Oh, and by the way Ajax, you're a kidtoucher... Later, fagget...  It's not funny, my ass is on fire.... Thanks to the lovely Jolene for my sig pic... It's always funny until someone gets hurt, And then it's just hilarious!!! | ||||
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