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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: F.U. Bill Maher and his politically shit show | ||||
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| MINDLESS | posted on 02-22-2002 @ 6:29 PM |    | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Feb. 02  | what a dick this guy is. Everyone is my underling, I'm better than everyone, blah-blah--what a dick, he always has to be right, always has to be better than everyone else, every opinion that goes against his is shit and blah blah. Go to hell Bill Maher you go to hell and you die! What, people aren't allowed to show emotion? Especially when we've just been attacked by terrorists? FUCK YOU BILL! deek!you're just a little turd, you go to hell-you go to hell and you die! If it were'nt for the French, France would be a lovely place HOMER NO FUNCTION BEER WELL WITHOUT | ||||
| OAAWITE | posted on 02-22-2002 @ 8:15 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | I have no idea what he said this time, but I'm sure I disagree with it. And he has to be one of the most pompous, self-important people in the politics/news arena.  HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW, BITCH??!! Keep hacking, I'll keep posting New Poster with a question? AIM me Confirmed Kills: Foundry Music Jeff. | ||||
| barch97 BBTB The barch gots lots a dick I kind of enjoy my anonymity on the board WOW Forum Ambassador | posted on 02-22-2002 @ 8:18 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jul. 00 | quote:I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm never awake late enough to see his show. Not that I'd want to. Just wanted to mention how much I enjoyed reading that line. Not so much because it was about Bill Maher. Could have been almost any name. I just really liked the way that flowed. Might be getting close to over doing it by repeating it at the end of the same paragraph though.  Long Live the "Syndication Underground" | ||||
| OAAWITE | posted on 02-22-2002 @ 8:28 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | You don't watch South Park do you, Barch? HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW, BITCH??!! Keep hacking, I'll keep posting New Poster with a question? AIM me Confirmed Kills: Foundry Music Jeff. | ||||
| barch97 BBTB The barch gots lots a dick I kind of enjoy my anonymity on the board WOW Forum Ambassador | posted on 02-22-2002 @ 9:06 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jul. 00 | You know, I thought that sounded familiar. I take that all back MINDLESS. Nice use of the Mr. Garrison quote but, you really don't deserve quite that much credit for it. Long Live the "Syndication Underground" | ||||
| MINDLESS | posted on 02-23-2002 @ 2:44 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Feb. 02 | DAMN! I had the glory in my hands and it was taken, TAKEN from me! you Klingon--BASTARD!---you killed my son, ---you----Kingon-------------BASTARD! HOMER NO FUNCTION BEER WELL WITHOUT | ||||
| Redhead Lover | posted on 03-01-2002 @ 7:33 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 02 | For those who managed to forget about this piece of shit, Bill Maher was the towelhead-loving cunt who tried to boost his pathetic ratings by calling President Bush stupid for calling the September 11th terrorists cowards. Maher claimed that the US was cowardly and the terrorists were brave. What this ass-licking retard seemed to forget is that we usually don't call people "brave" when they commit suicide, we call them cowards. And for all of Maher's criticism of Bush, it seems to me Bush kept making public appearances even though he knew he was a target, while O-slime-a Bin Laden never came out of hiding from his cave. Fortunately there was some justice, as supposedly ,negative reaction to Bill Maher's stupidity has caused him to lose his job. But, for the record, I WISH BILL MAHER AND OSAMA BIN LADEN WOULD GIVE EACH OTHER AIDS AND THEN DO THE WORLD A FAVOR AND DIE! Thank you... "Weaselling is all part of human nature! Weaseling separates us from the animals... except the weasel" - Homer Simpson | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 03-01-2002 @ 8:04 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | ENOUGH WITH SAYING HE SAID THE MILITARY WAS COWARDLY. FOR GOD'S SAKE he didn't fucking say that. He said that the politicans were cowardly for not going after Bin Laden after Yemen or Hussein during the Gulf WAr. Get the whole story before you just take a soundclip out of context. I don't agree with all of what he says but I have to admit I agree with a bunch of it.  "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." | ||||
| Redhead Lover | posted on 03-01-2002 @ 8:27 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 02 | quote: Guess you need to take your own advice. Bill Maher's exact words were "call the terrorists what you want, but they were not cowards. Dropping bombs from a distance like we do, now that's cowardly" So, yes, Bill Maher was calling the United States cowardly. Since you want to defend Bill Maher, I will say that I sincerely hope that he doesn't really admire terrorists and that this was just an attempt to cause controversy and drum up ratings. Still, trying to use the deaths of over 3,000 inocent people to improve ratings, that's still pretty cold... And, please, spare us the "TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT" bullshit, I'm so fucking sick of hypocrites hiding behind this lame excuse. If Bill Maher was trying to say that we should have gone after Bin Laden sooner, then maybe he should have used words like... "we should have gone after Bin Laden sooner" instead of "the terrorists weren't cowardly". Everytime one of these media shitheads gets criticized, they were TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. Give these morons enough time, and they'll try to convince you that Hitler was TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT too... If you're a fan of Bill Maher's, that's your right and your opinion, but don't fuckin' expect me to swallow the lies you've obviously sold yourself. I think Bill Maher's a sleazy piece of shit... but please, don't take those words out of context or anything... "Weaselling is all part of human nature! Weaseling separates us from the animals... except the weasel" - Homer Simpson | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 12:09 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | I watched the show and I sincerely doubt that he did it for the ratings, it was a misunderstood comment and I didn't even think twice about it. As I said, I agree with A LOT of what we say but not ALL of it. One thing he says that bothers me is that he refuses to watch cartoons because cartoons are for children. "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." | ||||
| OAAWITE | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 2:19 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | Ikea, the whole purpose of the show is either for him to say dumb shit or to get his guests to say dumb shit that people disagree with. It doesn't get taken out of context, since his points are normally two lines ling due to the the time contraints of TV. He is directly quoted, and if he realzies that something he says comes out wrong, it's becuase he doesn't know how to effectively communicate his points using few words. Tough shit for him. However he was righh here, the terrorists weren't "cowards". Someone's who's willing to give their lives up for a cause, any cause no matter how wrong, is not a coward. Maher was right on this point. This doesn't make him a "towel-head loving cunt." "Lobbing" missles from thousands of miles away, is not cowardly, it's FUCKING SMART. Why the hell would you do it any other way, if you could effective. This is where Maher is a retard.  New Poster with a question? AIM me | ||||
| Redhead Lover | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 4:47 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 02 | quote: Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on this one. In the Islamic faith, it's believed that dying in a Holy War will automatically earn you a place in The Promised Land. The reason many of these terrorists are so willing to die is because they want to get into the after-life. So, basically, a lot of these terrorists can't cope with their lives, so they look to get themselves killed in a "Holy War". And even worse, they take innocent citizens with them. To me, those are the actions of a coward. To end it all because you can't deal with life and you want to get to Allah... what's brave about that?!? Hence my original point, when anyone else commits suicide, we say they were cowards, so why do people praise the terrorists for committing suicide?!? If these radical Islamic militants were truly brave, they'd prove it on a battlefield, they certainly wouldn't cut an unarmed stewardess's throat and kill thousands of unarmed citizens, who commited no crime other than showing up for work that day. But, I'll give you this one...perhaps I was being a tad over-dramatic when I called him a "Towel-head loving cunt..." ;) "Weaselling is all part of human nature! Weaseling separates us from the animals... except the weasel" - Homer Simpson | ||||
| barch97 BBTB The barch gots lots a dick I kind of enjoy my anonymity on the board WOW Forum Ambassador | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 7:31 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jul. 00 | I cannot believe people are still arguing about this. He said it in what, October? Get over it. Whether you agree with him or not, who the fuck is Bill Maher? Who cares what Bill Maher thinks or says? He's an idiot. Let it go. What I can't figure out is why some people are so completely uncompromising in there opinions about this. Is it possible to, just for a moment, try to see things, if not from the other perspective at least, from an objective view? I'm not saying that they are right or that anything they've done is justified or that what has happened is anything less than tragic. Just presenting an idea that may shed some light on "why". They are so ridiculously out matched that their only hope to make any sort of statement or strike against us is an act of terrorism. They are in everyway the underdog here. Does that make them wrong? No, they're wrong because they disagree with us. quote:Well, actually no. That would even stupider than not lobbing bombs from thousands of miles away. They'd lose. No doubt about it. No one would argue that. So, your stance is might makes right? Are you so pro US and anti-everyone else because you truly believe in our ideals? So, much that you would die for them? Or, is it because you're pretty damn sure that we will win? Long Live the "Syndication Underground" | ||||
| 71PLYMOUTH | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 11:57 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Feb. 02 | Bill Maher is a pock marked femme. I want to kick him in the crotch Rest In Peace ,Stuart Adamson of Big Country -1958-2001 | ||||
| Redhead Lover | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 12:06 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 02 | quote: No, they're not wrong for disagreeing with us, they're wrong for killing innocent poeple. On September 11th, over 3,000 people died for no other reason than that they showed up for work that day. My "uncompromising" stance against these terrorist acts isn't about being Pro-America, it's about being a fucking human being! quote: No, my stance is that there is NOTHING brave about killing unarmed, innocent people. If a militant Islamic feels that soldiers from Israel have killed his family, then he should go after those soldiers, he shouldn't GET ON AN AMERICAN AIRPLANE, SLIT AN UNARMED STEWARDESSES THROAT AND FLY THE PLANE INTO A CROWDED BUILDING KILLING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE!! THAT'S WHAT I'M FUCKING SAYING!! IS THAT REALLY SO FUCKING HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND!! NOTHING JUSTIFIES WHAT HAPPENED ON SEPTEMBER 11TH! NOTHING!! ONCE AGAIN, IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING AMERICAN, IT'S ABOUT BEING HUMAN!! WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN GETTING THAT I'M SAYING MIGHT MAKES RIGHT?!? Please do me a favor, repond to this fucking post and quote the part where I supposedly said Might makes right because I sure don't fucking see it! What I've said all along is that there is NO REASON why all those innocent people should have died on September 11th! quote: Are you asking me if I'm so Pro-US that I would get on an Iranian airplane, slit a stewardess's throat, and crash the plane into Tehran, killing thousands of innocent Iranian people? If that's what you're asking, than the answer is "No". NOTHING JUSTIFIES TERRORISM, NO MATTER WHO'S DOING IT!!! If you're asking me if I were on an American airplane and an Iranian pulled a knive, am I pro-US enough to risk my life to stop him, then the answer is "Yes", I would risk my life to protect innocent people. quote: I'm not sure why you chose to attack me since I didn't even start this post, but let me say this again for what seems the 9,000th time... I have a problem with people calling the terrorist brave. I can't help but notice that while you were trying to attack everything I said, you conveniently never addressed my question of "Why is it whenever anyone else commits suicide, we call them cowards, but when the terrorists do it, people say they were brave?" The terrorists were too cowardly to cope with life, so they committed suicide. And in doing so, they killed thousands of innocent, unarmed people. Excuse me, but I fail to see the fucking bravery in those actions. I'm not trying to be vicious here, but I really don't understand you're way of thinking, Barch. How could you possibly suggest that the terrorists were justified? Please feel free to respond, because I really am baffled by your comments. I'm more than willing to discuss my opinions, but I don't understand what is so difficult to understand about my saying killing innocent people is not right??? | ||||
| barch97 BBTB The barch gots lots a dick I kind of enjoy my anonymity on the board WOW Forum Ambassador | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 12:53 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jul. 00 | I knew this was going to happen. So, I’m a scumbag now for suggesting, not that anyone was justified but, that there may actually be an explanation? Apparently this topic is still too heated with personal feelings and emotion to be discussed logically. So, I will spare you all any further comments. Please accept my sincerest apologies if anything I said offended anyone in the slightest degree. Long Live the "Syndication Underground" | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 1:14 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:Where was it ever said that the terrorists couldn't cope with their lives? How did you learn this? There's a HUGE fucking difference between suicide (which isn't a weak act) and Sacrificing yourselves for your beliefs (which is DEFINITELY not a weak act and almost completely opposite from suicide) "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." | ||||
| Redhead Lover | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 1:15 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 02 | quote: You seem to have a habit of putting words into my mouth... I never called you a scumbag! But I disagree with what you said. You say there's an explanation, but I say any explanation is distorted. Now, for the 9,001th time, there is NOTHING to excuse, justify, or explain the cold-blooded murder of innocent people quote: Hey, you don't owe ME any apology. (Although I think you may owe an apology to the families of the 3,000 people who were heartlessly murdered my the terrorists you wanted to defend). And I think I made it very clear that I have no problem discussing this further. I wasn't being sarcastic, I honestly don't understand what you were trying to say. I understand that you're saying the terrorists had their own point of view. Absolutely. Many Islamic Militant groups hate the US for being allies with Israel. There has been a very bloody war going on between Israel and Palestine over land that Israel took from Palestine back in the Six Day War. Because the US supports Israel (and let's face it, the Israel government doesn't exactly have halos over their heads) Pro-Palestinian groups hate us. I understand. What I DON'T understand is how someone can say "I'm mad at Israel, so instead of helping the Palestinian army, I'll attack the United States instead, and I won't hurt any of the Israelie soldiers I'm upset with, instead I'll hijack an airplane and crash it into an office building and kill innocent civilians". Sorry, this way of thinking makes no sense to me. Again, I don't want you to feel like you aren't entitled to your point of view, I want you to explain it to me. My position isn't about choosing countries, it's about protecting innocent people. I did take offense at your accusation that I was saying "might makes right" because I even reread my posts and can't find ANYWHERE where I said anything that suggests that! No offense, but I can't help but notice that you didn't answer my request for you to point out to me exactly where I said that might makes right. Again, I fully invite you to discuss your position. I'm not trying to be rude, but I truly don't understand what you're trying to say. If I misinterpretted something you said, I apologize, but you've given me no evidence to suggest that I misinterpretted anything you said. "Weaselling is all part of human nature! Weaseling separates us from the animals... except the weasel" - Homer Simpson | ||||
| OAAWITE | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 1:18 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | The fact is Redhead, these terrorists didn't view the American military as the evil force. They viewed American society the evil force. In their mind, the "innocent" people going to work every day weren't innocent, those people were the enemies of their way of life, becuase Capitalism is trying to permeate and destroy all aspects of their culture and religion. So, in their mind, this wasn't a suicide killing innocent people, it was sacrificing their life to kill thousands of their sworn enemies, and hopefully cripple the economy of the country they view as Satan. In their mind, what they did was tantamount to an American soldier crashing a plane into a Taliban military instituation, crippling that regime. American's would view that soldier as a brave and couragous, just like Islam is viewing these terrorists are heroes. And THAT is why they can be called a lot of things, but cowards isn't one of them. New Poster with a question? AIM me | ||||
| Redhead Lover | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 1:39 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 02 | quote:. I guess you and I will have to agree to disagree on this one. I understand completely what you're saying about the Islamic point of view. I'm sure many militant Islamic people do perceive the terrorists to be heroes. But I still say suicide is cowardly, even if one performs it under the guise of religious expression Of course, all this may be a moot point, since as we learned later, only four of the hijackers actually KNEW it was going to be a suicide mission, the others supposedly thought it was strictly a hijacking. quote: Okay, let's make a hypothetical situation. I get backstabbed by my co-workers and subsequently fired, causing me to become severly depressed. So if I trrow myself off of a bridge, I'm a coward. But if I decide my old workplace is an evuil organization, and I walk in with a bomb strapped to me and blow myself up along with all the people working there that day, that is not a weak act and is the exact opposite of suicide??? Again, agree to disagree. "Weaselling is all part of human nature! Weaseling separates us from the animals... except the weasel" - Homer Simpson | ||||
| OAAWITE | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 1:50 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | Argggggggggggggggh "Agree to disagree" Argggggggggggggggh Now, back to the debate. Are you saying that the Japense Kamikaze pilots were cowards then? They crashed planes into military installations becuase they knew they could cause more damage that way. And again, I don't think the military vs. civilian thing applies here. The terrorists specifically viewed civilians as the enemy and no the military becuase they viewed Capitalism as the threat, and not our army. That's why they went after the biggest symbol of Capitalism in the world. That's what the terrorists pilots were doing. They crashed a plane into a building becuase that is the ONLY way that they could have achieved the desired results. There was no other way for them to take down those buildings besides the way they did it. It was tactics not cowardice. New Poster with a question? AIM me This message was edited by OAAWITE on 3-2-02 @ 1:55 PM | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 2:01 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | quote: Working backwards "Agree to disagree" is one of the stupidest lines ever. And I'm not sure about your situation what exactly are you asking. Are you still depressed? Are you sure in your mind that killing your co-workers is a worthy cause and you're killing them all for your God or whatever you believe in? And I have NEVER said that suicide is a weak or cowardly act. But you said that they killed themselves because they hated their lives which is COMPLETELY WRONG. Hypothetically, you're in a single person plane and you see a missile flying toward new york. You know that if you crash into the missile you'll die but NY will be saved. What do you do? What DO you do? "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." | ||||
| barch97 BBTB The barch gots lots a dick I kind of enjoy my anonymity on the board WOW Forum Ambassador | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 2:06 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jul. 00 | I wasn't appologizing to you. I was appologizing to everyone. I broke the first rule. I didn't think before I posted. There are a lot of people that read this message board that lost people that were very dear to them on that day (myself included). And, I responded not considering that they may read this and not be to keen on anything I had to say. And, for that I again appologize. I am tempted to remove that post but, I fear that you would take offense to my posting it and then later withdrawing it. I can see the direction that this discussion is heading and choose to attempt to stop it from getting to the point where too much emotion is dredged up in this so public of forums. I'd be happy to discuss this with you further but, I do not think that this is the most considerate place for it. I further appologize for "putting words into [your] mouth". I'm sorry you see it that way. And, again I don't think that this the best place to get into a discussion about it. So, it's over. You win. Move on. Long Live the "Syndication Underground" | ||||
| Redhead Lover | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 2:09 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 02 | quote: Actually, I would call the Kamikaze pilots cowards. They did a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor at a facility they knew was not expecting an attack. Bravery is facing your enemy, not striking them from behind. That said, let me stress that doing the "brave" thing does not necessarily mean doing the "smart" thing. I feel justified in calling Kamikaze pilots cowards for attacking when our backs were turned, but I won't deny that, for what they wanted to accomplish, it was much smarter to launch a sneak attack. Likewise, I'll go so far to say that while I'll call the Islamic terrorists cowards, I will not call them stupid. They were very methodical in what they did, and tragically, their plans on September 11th were sucessful. I consider sneak attacks cowardly, but, sadly, they are also successful. "Weaselling is all part of human nature! Weaseling separates us from the animals... except the weasel" - Homer Simpson | ||||
| Redhead Lover | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 2:25 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 02 | quote: No, telling a woman "I do" is one of the stupidest lines ever! (Sorry, REALLY BAD attempt at humor, I'm deeply ashamed...) quote: You're absolutely right. I apologize. I misread where you said "Suicide (which is NOT a weak act) and thought you had said suicide was a weak act. That was my misunderstanding. quote: I was trying to draw a parallel to some of the recent office shootings. (Also, I'd like to stipulate that this was a hypothetical situation... I haven't lost my job and I'm not planning to kill my co-workers... although I would like to slash their tires at times...) Say I feel that the management of my former job is ruthless and destroys lives, so I go in with a bomb. Is this a brave act? Likewise, when the two Trenchcoat Mafia students walked in with shotguns and killed unarmed students at Columbine, was that a brave act? "Weaselling is all part of human nature! Weaseling separates us from the animals... except the weasel" - Homer Simpson | ||||
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