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Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 01-14-2002 @ 8:07 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Feb. 01
Well, so much for me getting to take a few days and collect my thoughts.

As it stands, both Seph & Sean have stepped down. I knew Sean was going to retire again to take care of handling his own site. Seph however felt he had other issue with the way I banned Afrika and the course of this site. I do however take exception to the comments he made about pertaining to my lying to him when i offered him a moderatorship.

I have made it very clear that I am interested in evoking change, and I think very slowly that's becoming apparent. We had a very productive week all across the site last week, it seemed like people were calming down and posting a bit more quality. There was a lot of humor around, the temporary bannings, etc. It reminded me very much of days gone by.

I have no intention of bringing on any new mods at the present time. I don't see any reason to, but when I do, I will allow everyone to give their opinions on the people I am considering.

Things look very ugly right now, but there will be better days ahead for the site. I knew the Afrika banning would draw heat, but I did not expect the dominoes to fall like they have.

If anyone wants to step down from their mod status, I understand. If any member feels the need to leave this site for another, I understand. But I myself am not going anywhere.
I want to continue working for better changes, even if they do come slowly. And I do want to rebuild this site to a new glory.

I won't lie, I have been knocked back a bit by what's happened today, but nothing is ever easy in this life.


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands


Over The Limit
TheGooch
Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh?
posted on 01-14-2002 @ 8:38 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
My comment is my status for this silliness. Otherwise, I am here as always, and will remain so. Knowing of Kid's threat to hack this site to direct people to the other site made it pretty clear in my mind he had to go, and quick, before we'd have to clean it up. It shows he premeditated ill-will towards this site. So, quit the "he loved the site" and was a "great poster" crap. I remember when he was a contributor once upon a time too...but those days were long gone.

As for the BTS leak...I know who to trust and who not to. I will never entrust this section to anything critical or personal, i'll leave that to IM with those who I do trust. And that's all I have to say about that.





Here's a tip that will save you alot of grief and time...

Don't believe in and depend on anyone but yourself.


This message was edited by TheGooch on 1-14-02 @ 8:44 PM
Fez
The sky is blue
posted on 01-14-2002 @ 8:54 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Oct. 00
quote:

Knowing of Kid's threat to hack this



See, now its these types of things that need to be known loud and clear.

Like froy said, sean had reasons for leaving and I respect that.

As for Seph, I lost a lot of respect for him today. That was a heat of the moment decision and he'll be regretting it in an hour. It reiterates my concern with him all along: He's too emotional and can't take shit thrown his way.

One thing that did concern me is Facey starting the "what you can do to help." It gives members the fact that the board is in serious trouble but, when you get down to it, it isn't. We still have a somewhat solid O & A population here. Plus we still have a large amount of regs still here. Also, it just wasn't right to post that while tensions are still high.



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Faceman
...And now the battle between us and them has begun.

JYD-4-LIFE.

posted on 01-14-2002 @ 9:09 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: May. 00
quote:

One thing that did concern me is Facey starting the "what you can do to help." It gives members the fact that the board is in serious trouble but, when you get down to it, it isn't. We still have a somewhat solid O & A population here. Plus we still have a large amount of regs still here. Also, it just wasn't right to post that while tensions are still high



Fez, I respect your comments. I did what I felt I had to do, in light of whats going on. A thought a mod saying something at a time like this was what was needed. Sorry if you don't feel the same way. I'll go back to my cage now



I am the game, you don't want to play me
i am control, no way you can shake me
i am heavy debts, no way you can pay me
i am the pain ,and i know you can't take me

Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 01-14-2002 @ 9:14 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Feb. 01
quote:

See, now its these types of things that need to be known loud and clear



Unfortunately that was something that Sean told me in complete confidence, and I asked to bring into light when people first started the Afrika questioning. But I promised him I wouldn't mention it, and even went so far as to ask his permission to post it yesterday when I first responded. I was all for letting the mods only know about it, but it wasn't until his hand was forced that he had to speak up about it.


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands


Over The Limit
SLASH
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC
STRIKE 3
(I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)
posted on 01-14-2002 @ 10:01 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 00
Ya know... I am not happy about the Kid /Seph /Sean departures.

Kid, well, LOL... I never once had the urge to ban him, so I guess I don't fit into the 90% bracket. Kid was the master at pushing people's buttons. However, I knew/know his game. For me, knowing his game was half the battle. The other half of the battle was that Kid knew that I knew his game. I, for one, know that Kid would never hack a site, and if I was privy to that info beforehand, I would have let those involved that that was an empty threat. Gooch, not to get into an arguement over this, but I think you are too emotionally involved over the Kid issue. Chill out and smoke one for me ;)

Sean... well, Sean and I go back over a year now. Looking back, I could see how he and even Upuauat could have resented me being made mod. Personally, I don't think Upuauat was enamored with the idea, but Sean to the best of my knowledge has never had a bad word to say about me being made. I mean, it was his posts/threads that Just Jon was deleting when JJ was demodded. In retrospect, not that Sean was doing that to become a mod, but maybe his presence on the board (manifestos etc..) should have catapulted him into the moderator postion in front of me. Either way, Sean is NOT one to bury his thoughts/opinions, and if he was pissed, I am sure I would have been aware. Either way, other than a random board bullshit disagreement, I think him and I have a pretty solid trust. I am not happy to see Sean go either. But, he has his own site now, a site at which I am registered, and I wish him the best of luck. Will I post exclusively at one or another? Not at all. I didn't do tyhat with STM, and I am not about to do it with CDIH.

Seph... "sure he's young, but he is smart and clever too... I like this kid."

Seriously, I could feel something coming on as of late. I just couldn't place it. Seph has always been cool, even if I didn't get the whole Ninja Robot thing, LOL Seph, is one of the most polite and appreciative people I have met on here. I will miss his oa.com posting, but I will still see his craziness elsewhere.

In conclusion, none of these people will be treated differently by me, now that they are gone from oa.com. If any of them pull a Up / Ip and drop off the face of the earth, I have no control over that. With the new private community known as CDIH, I don't see that happening any time soon. By all means, I hope that the timing of all this has no reflection on Sean for he has worked his ass off TWICE on his site, with little help from outside sources, for all I know. The domino effect was a result, in my opinion, of an emotionally clouded judgement. There were and would have been multiple reasons to 'sophistrically' ban kid. That was not one of them. Had it been done over a more valid reason, there would have been legions of posters siding with the decision. That, however, is not the case.

So, what do we do now? Honestly, I don't know. I haven't really been posting on either site. To tell you the truth, I haven't posted on Sean's site since he brought it back up. I also have been spotty at best posting here. Lately, I have been messing with FTL on the server. Have I accomplished much in that area yet? Well, all I will say is "I am all about the smilies." LOL Actually, FTL has a lot more experience than me, and is always 2 steps ahead of me THE ANTSY FUCK! I appreciate the opp'ty to work with and learn from FTL, as well as FTL putting up with me... I promise to make noticeable hands-on contributions in the near future. The only trick is to NOT let on to FTL what I want to work on... FUCKIN" ANTSY BITCH! LOL

I guess what I am trying to say, that as of late, the only fun I am having around here is hanging out backstage. I can't take the mindless games/chat threads/questions and so forth. It is truely killing my spirit to post. For better of for worse, I am not going anywhere whether any of you like it or not!



AIM: SmarterChild

Write To Me Here

I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?



This message was edited by SLASH on 1-14-02 @ 10:09 PM

GonzoStyle
posted on 01-15-2002 @ 11:26 AM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

Knowing of Kid's threat to hack this site to direct people to the other site made it pretty clear in my mind he had to go



K1d threatened to do many things but what was said to you in confidence and what was said to be under control should have remained there. This is what I am talking about people who don't know how to keep something hush, Matt atleast had the decency and respect to ask Sean dude what the fuck? Should have the other mods known of the threat? Maybe but it was something said in confidence and has no standing since the members involved are gone and trust me if k1d wanted to do it he would, the fuckin guy said to me if froy would have unbanned him he'd have still come back don't question his loyalty. I know i've spoken in confidence to certain people in IM and on the phone about stuff I hate about this site but it's just personal feelings, and saying "god I hate so and so and wish I could kill him." Doesn't mean I am gonna kill him. Stop defending k1d's banning there is no defending it no matter what you say, so let it die gooch and learn to keep things which are in told to you in trust, to yourself.




I'm Deep Inside Your Children.
They Will Betray You In MY Name.

Thanks Gooch for The Sig





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