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I have Cool-Mod-Powers and can read the Cool-Mod-Forum, then I drive home in my Cool-Mod-Car UFC | posted on 06-26-2001 @ 12:26 AM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00  | OK.. Kinda hiding what My actual post was going to be.. but I do think if you can you need to try to talk some sense into Martyr boy.. I finally log onto IM after a week break.. and am immediately hit with this: (p.s... yes, I did share something from BTS.. but it was only what I posted, no one else, and it was to get a point across that he'ld be fine if he'ld drop the attitude.. it was only my statement that I shared.. but if you think I shouldn't have done so let me know and I'll avoid it in the future) kldafrlka: in regards to your "A Quote from Froy" post... kldafrlka: biting my tongue hurts. ;-) LordMagus01: jes? LordMagus01: are we calm now at least? kldafrlka: calm as a snake that's been backed into a corner. I won't do anything unless provoked. kldafrlka: the only reason I attacked you last friday was because you piled-on a situation that had been going on for too long in the first place. LordMagus01: that's really not that calm you know... could cause angina or heart problems kldafrlka: oh, I'm cooler than Teddy Pendergrass sippin' a milkshake in a snowstorm. But, I won't back down from attacks. Never have, never will. LordMagus01: dude.. i was TRYING to calm you down before you really got in trouble... just remember when you snap at somebody they might snap back is all kldafrlka: I posted that I was willing to drop it as long as nobody else piped in with their opinion, then you did. LordMagus01: I THINK you posted that as I was typing LordMagus01: though I could be wrong... kldafrlka: may have been, but you posted then njcuntberry posted kldafrlka: I couldn't take it anymore. People missed the entire point of my post and started talking about me not being a mod when it wasn't even a part of it. LordMagus01: but it really doesn't matter.. it's my JOB to tell people when to back off.. that's one thing you've got to learn to accept man.. it is an unfortunate fact of life.. if you walk up to a bouncer in a bar that you don't know and say you don't like how he's doing his job, then get pissed at him when he tells you to shut up.. you're gonna end up getting kicked out of the bar (take a minute and look at the meaning.. it's essentially what you did, even if it wasn't your intention) kldafrlka: My only point in the whole thing was that people have turned the board into their personal chat, when it's really much bigger than that. It's supposed to be entertaining and fun, not sad and heartfelt. kldafrlka: if a bouncer tells me he doesn't like the way I dance in his club, does that give him the right to through me out? LordMagus01: ok.. here, it's simple.. it's a community.. people in a community like to share.. that goes with both the good AND the bad.. they share for support.. if the sob stories make you uncomfortable then just don't listen kldafrlka: I'm just saying that sob/love stories are kind of out of place on a board that is based on a comedy show where they rip people apart for doing the same. LordMagus01: nope.. but it wasn't your dancing.. it was your criticising the bouncer.. and wether you think so or not, that IS what you were doing.. you were criticising, directly or indirectly, board policy.. THAT is a no no LordMagus01: out of place.. in GD maybe.. in FU or ot certainly not LordMagus01: but before you go thinking I have it in for you.. I want you to see something.. LordMagus01: granted.. i was a little pissed when I typed this.... LordMagus01: I know Kid has gotten on some folks nerves the last day or two. He seems to have gotten a bug up his ass about being able to state his opinion wherever and whenever he chooses, meaning he can defile any thread he wants, and yet no one else can do the same to him. I've been biting my tongue for a while now, but I saw he finally pushed everyone else's buttons, but he seems to really like to guilt trip people into not banning him.. so I just did, just for a week, but I wanted to let everyone know that I am banning him NOT because he pissed me off.. but because he seems to feel he can openly criticise board policy and taunt the moderators without sufferring any backlash, and this attitude should NOT be allowed in my honesdt opinion. I'm only giving him a week this time because he IS a good poster when he's calm, and I want to give him time to calm down and see if he learns. LordMagus01: I debated on editing it just now... but I want to be honest.... whether it's your intention to do what I wrote there or not.. that's how you've been coming across lately LordMagus01: that is in entirety my post from BTS just after I banned you last week LordMagus01: But what I WANT you to note is the last sentence LordMagus01: you are a good member of the board.. you just tend to fly off the handle every so often.. everybody does.. but you seem to pick the worst places to do it.. know what I mean? kldafrlka: it was never stated that we had to be nice to each other, only to newbies. I stated that newbies should not be involved. I just think that too many people are afraid to go against the vets, myself included. Until everyone decided to pile on, nobody would've said shit to me. LordMagus01: actually, you're wrong... it's not going against the vets.. my primary example is Grumpy's Father's day thread.. it was a sincere post meant for sincere posting.. yet simply because of that, and whatever personal gripe you have with grumpy (it's pretty obvious you two don't like each other) you felt the need to steer it from father's day to how you could post whatever you want wherever you want.. yet not a week before that I saw you lose it on someone else for steering one of your threads of course.. kldafrlka: show me that thread kldafrlka: I may have posted something like that sarcastically, but I realize that it's a miracle for a thread to stay on topic after the first page. LordMagus01: let's see.. 2 weeks ago.. hmm.. with the amount of posts you make? First off, it would take me a good hour to find it.. second off.. I don't need to prove myself to you.. if it weren't true I wouldn't have said it.. I CAN however think of an older one that fits the bill right now if you'ld like kldafrlka: grumpy has no more right to say "DO NOT DEFILE THIS THREAD" than I do. that's why I did it. I would never be so pretentious to post some shit like that. LordMagus01: actaully.. you're right.. you have an equal right to say it kldafrlka: besides, all I posted was "aww isn't that sweet", and I would have happily left it at that, but I was called out in the thread, so I replied. kldafrlka: mods/admins posting board policy deserve to not have threads defiled, anybody else is fair game. shit, even the adoption threads get defiled. LordMagus01: you know what.. I'm not going to get into this.. it's simple. If you are not going to contribute to the topic at hand.. don't post, THAT has been a long standing board more LordMagus01: period. kldafrlka: bullshit, the board was founded on sharing opinions and thoughts, not agreeing on everything. LordMagus01: you don't have to agree.. but you should stick to topic.. what you posted was NOT about father's day but about your rights to post.. NOT topical kldafrlka: we can butt heads on this all you want, I will not change my views. If if leads to my permanent banning, so be it. But I will be happy with myself in sticking to my convictions. kldafrlka: that was in reply to someone else's reply which was equally not about father's day LordMagus01: that's all well and good kldafrlka: so, how am I worse than anyone else, they could've ignored my one line post, but they chose not to, and I chose not to be attacked without fighting back. kldafrlka: I'm stubborn, I'm an asshole, but I will admit when I'm wrong. I just don't see how I was wrong here. kldafrlka: but hey man, "Live long and prosper". It's only a message board. It's not like I want to fight you or anything. LordMagus01: because, unfortunately, you say trhe wrong things.. you preached about board policy and rights, when you forget that essentially there ARE NONE.. if you had just attacked grumpy or whoever directly it probably would have been moved to fightclub LordMagus01: believe me.. if I didn't consider you a friend.. it A: Wuldn't have been temporaray, and B: this convo wouldn' kldafrlka: THERE IS NO BOARD POLICY ABOUT BEING NICE TO EACH OTHER, ONLY NEWBIES! LordMagus01: t have lasted LordMagus01: ahh.. but there IS board policy about A: Attacking mods, and B: Questioning board policy.. both of which you were guilty of that day kldafrlka: I don't have to agree with everything everyone posts, and I don't have to only post positive replies. that's part of how message boards work. without conflict, the board would be awfully boring. which it has been lately. LordMagus01: ok.. stop for a second and READ my replies, ok... kldafrlka: too bad there's no one to police the police. absolute power corrupts, absolutely. kldafrlka: I am reading them LordMagus01: I'm NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO AGREE.. I'm saying you can't presume on policy.. THAT'S what you were doing LordMagus01: by stating that you have a RIGHT to post whatever and whenever you want, you presume board policy LordMagus01: because you DON'T.. I Don't.. only 1 person does kldafrlka: if I am limited in what I can post... I will not post. LordMagus01: That's the guy who owns the place LordMagus01: well then don't post kldafrlka: with whom I've had a very similar conversation tonight kldafrlka: he knows how I feel. he advised that I won't last long with my "attitude". I said the same thing I just told you, I will not have my thoughts dictated to me. If it means I am permanently banned then at least I can be banned knowing that I stuck to what I feel is right. kldafrlka: a message board should be based on free speech to a certain degree. spamming doesn't fall within free speech but I am not guilty of that. replying to posts on a board when you differ from the opinion of the masses is not something that should be punished. kldafrlka: I have to go to sleep now. I'm sure this is not over, but I'm prepared to face the consequences of my actions. This is why I didn't start another name and start posting the next day. I knew why I was banned and I feel I took it "like a man" LordMagus01: good night kldafrlka signed off at 12:24:54 AM.  No! I am NOT a Goth Dude!! "Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun!" | ||||
King Shit *board owner* | posted on 06-26-2001 @ 12:42 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01 | I spoke to him for almost two hours tonight trying to make him understand things. I wish I had saved the IM, but I never do. It is clear that he will walk the fine line until he does something that will get him banned. He's said as much to me and accepts that fact. Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 06-26-2001 @ 12:53 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | By that IM convo, I think Kid is basically saying... Don't damn me When I speak a piece of my mind 'Cause silence isn't golden When I'm holding it inside 'Cause I've been where I have been An I've seen what I have seen I put the pen to the paper 'Cause it's all a part of me Be it a song or casual conversation To hold my tongue speaks Of quiet reservations Your words once heard They can place you in a faction My words may disturb But at least there's a reaction Sometimes I wanna kill Sometimes I wanna die Sometimes I wanna destroy Sometimes I wanna cry Sometimes I could get even Sometimes I could give up Sometimes I could give Sometimes I never give a fuck It's only for a while I hope you understand I never wanted this to happen Didn't want to be a man So I hid inside my world I took what I could find I cried when I was lonely I fell down when I was blind But don't damn me When I speak a piece of my mind 'Cause silence isn't golden When I'm holding it inside 'Cause I've been where I have been An I've seen what I have seen I put the pen to the paper 'Cause it's all a part of me How can I ever satisfy you An how can I ever make you see That deep inside we're all somebody An it don't matter who you wanna be But now I gotta smile I hope you comprehend For this man can say it happened 'Cause this child has been condemned So I stepped into your world I kicked you in the mind An I'm the only witness To the nature of my crime But look at what we've done To the innocent and young Whoa listen to who's talking 'Cause we're not the only ones The trash collected by the eyes And dumped into the brain Said it tears into our conscious thoughts You tell me who's to blame I know you don't wanna hear me cryin' An I know you don't wanna hear me deny That your satisfaction lies in your illusion But your delusions are yours and not mine We take for granted we know the whole story We judge a book by its cover And read what we want Between selected lines Don't hail me An don't idolize the ink Or I've failed in my attentions Can you find the missing link Your only validation is living your own life Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time So I send this song to the offended I said what I meant and I've never pretended As so many others do intending just to please If I damned your point of view Could you turn the other cheek But don't damn me When I speak a piece of my mind 'Cause silence isn't golden When I'm holding it inside 'Cause I've been where I have been An I've seen what I have seen I put the pen to the paper 'Cause it's all a part of me Don't damn me I said don't damn me I said don't hail me Don't damn me  Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here Oh, I believe in yesterday's got nothing for me | ||||
USA Autoban Head Slap... Swim Move... | posted on 06-26-2001 @ 9:19 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Oct. 00 | I'll see what I can do. But, I have no illusions of changing his mind. He does what he wants.  | ||||
| TheGooch Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh? | posted on 06-26-2001 @ 11:54 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | i think we're coddling him way too much. i IM'd him and chatted about stuff that had nothing to do with his so-called matyrdom on the board. Not one word was mentioned about board stuff or the past week, by him or me. I think this should really be a dead issue. the more you guys debate it, the more weight and the more power his unhappiness with the board has. in other words, you're doing precisely what he wants. just my 2 cents worth. he acted like an ass and got banned for a week for it. issue done, on to the next thing. harping on it only lets him stew in his own juices. anyway, i'm not criticizing anyone or anything you choose to do. just giving my opinion. cheers.  | ||||
King Shit *board owner* | posted on 06-26-2001 @ 5:35 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01 | I didn't coddle him in the least. I took a personal swipe at him in Roger's GD thread to give him a dose of his own medicine, then told him flat out that he was on a path towards banning and that i wouldnt hesitate to pull the trigger if he crossed the line. Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith | ||||
| TheGooch Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh? | posted on 06-26-2001 @ 6:11 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | i'm not blaming or construing anything...i just wanted to make a point that coddling or seeming to (if that is what is happening) will only support that type of behavior. He should be treated just like any other poster. | ||||
I have Cool-Mod-Powers and can read the Cool-Mod-Forum, then I drive home in my Cool-Mod-Car UFC | posted on 06-26-2001 @ 6:19 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Froy.. I think Gooch's statement is more towards me.. as I did tell him basicly that if he WASN'T a board reg he would have been gone for good.. and I understand Gooch's point.. But Gooch.. I DO think that after a while some people earn a small amount of leniency.. cause if we don't overlook past mistakes from someone who's been around for a while.. then eventually we'ld have to ban everybody.. cause everybody f's up eventually (..actually.. banning everyone doesn't sound so bad.......) But let me clarify.. I understand your point and I totally agree with it to a point (ok, so that's not totally) what I was trying to express to him, however.. was that he had worn out any and all patience (coddling) he may have earned up to this point.. essentially trying to tell him this IS his second chance and he better not waste it.. Obviously he no longer wishes to be a member of this board unless this board is run how he believes it should be, so it really is just a matter of time. No! I am NOT a Goth Dude!! "Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun!" | ||||
| Sean Cold 3:16 | posted on 06-26-2001 @ 6:23 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | pssssst, we can't treat him like another poster. but but but, he's black!  Make you satanistic Make you take the pistol to your face And place the clip and cock it back And let it go untill your brains are rippin' out your skull so bad And sew you back and be a waste of stitches | ||||
| TheGooch Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh? | posted on 06-26-2001 @ 6:31 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | ding...ding...ding. heh heh Yeah, I get ya Magus...no prob. I just don't want to think that he's special. Sure, he does get more slack than others. It took forever for him to get banned originally until you took that repsonsibility (and rightly so). I just think, and it's my education and psych classes coming into play here, that we should not act in a way that he feels that he can have a board tantrum and we just jump up and listen. And, now that he's back on the board, I just think we should stick to our guns and not pander to him, cuz it'll only re-inforce that matyrdom self-rightousness he's been carrying. Magus, whatever you do...especially in lieu of your friendship with Kid A, is your business, and certainly, you'll always have my support in regard to the mod stuff. Just wanted to weigh in with my opinion. | ||||
...And now the battle between us and them has begun. JYD-4-LIFE. | posted on 06-26-2001 @ 9:23 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: May. 00 | but sean, my friend wants to visit south africa;) In dealing with these changes Living with these changes Oh no, the world is a scary place Now that you've woken up the demon ... in me | ||||
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