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| Weedboobies | posted on 09-08-2001 @ 3:15 AM |    | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Aug. 01  | that VMA stuff was classic, i just saw the pics and i got one question...are those two hags really guys??? how about a World Bank Protest massacre down here in DC late september...ill be there drunk and offensive, if anyone else around DC wants to help make a mockery of this collection of tools,get off your asses, get a beer in your hand and start dodging tear gas... O and A if your up for it come on down and join us im sure we can either get the crap beat out of us or get a free ride to jail, either way, lots of laughs...... | ||||
| Mc_Cain_GookKilla | posted on 09-08-2001 @ 5:05 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jul. 01 | Have you seen some of those protestors? They look like they have not showered in months and half of them don't even know what the world bank does or why it should be protested. | ||||
| Turk408 | posted on 09-08-2001 @ 3:25 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | If all it is to you is a reason to get drunk, dodge tear gas and get the shit beat out of you and locked up, then you deserve to get all of it done to you. Do you even know what you're protesting over??? Or are you just looking for an excuse to go out and break stuff??? That guy in Italy who went to throw the fire extinguisher got what he deserved, Two TWO bullets in the head. At least know why you're protesting before you go off and make a fool of yourself. It ain't easy being greasy in a world full of cleanliness and you know, all that other madness. | ||||
| Weedboobies | posted on 09-08-2001 @ 3:35 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Aug. 01 | alright dumbshit, if i didnt make it clear enough, we're going there to make fun of the PC tools that are protesting, you uptight shit... | ||||
| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 09-08-2001 @ 4:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Do you people even realize what these people are protesting aganist? Of course not. And how do these protests have anything to do with political correctness? Sure that one protestor that got shot in Genoa might have had it coming(the facts are a bit murky) but there is without a doubt that the police used excessive force. And before you go on a tangent the police broke in a beat people that were sleeping then pissed on them while singing a fascist hymn. These globalization protests have meaning. Hey if you want the WTO, NAFTA, or the FTAA to take away your job, have unlceaner water and air, allow companies to sue the government for tax money, allow unsafe materials into the country, supercede governments, destroy labor unions, encourage child labor, etc. be my guest. But don't make comments about protestors when you don't know anything about what they are aganist. Thank you and have a nice day.  Resident Board Socialist Email me here or IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought no one into the International | ||||
| Scrappleking | posted on 09-08-2001 @ 5:18 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | quote: why bother making fun of people who are trying to stand up for their beliefs? The illusion that people do not know what they are protesting against is created by the media, CNN, the networks, etc. The problem is that these high visibility events, WTO, IMF, World Bank meetings draw protesters who support a wide variety of causes. The evironment, racism, police brutality, globalization, the war on drugs. There is no unified cause like there was during the Viet Nam war protests. Granted, there are some people who are just there to be radical to get arrested. Just like any group of people, you have some ignorant assholes show up. Of course these are the assholes who get on the news and are labled w/ the generic term of "protesters". There's a ton of positive stuff going on at these protests. There are seminars in non-violent actions, the are always some cool puppet stuff, you get to meet some fun people. So all of this being said, don't mess with these kids who are going to be in DC later in the month. 90% of these people either know why they are there or just have good intentions. Its rare today to see people become active in the political scene. What started a few years ago in Seattle has turned into a pretty big movement. We may actually see positive changes in the form of improved race relations, the environment, world health, and other human rights areas. So look in the mirror, if you want to witness ignorance. Also, this should be in the "Off Topic" area, right TOOL? "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." | ||||
| I Rooned It | posted on 09-08-2001 @ 6:39 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | I do agree that many of the people who protest the WTO, IMF etc. do have good intentions and find it as a way to be heard, which is very rare to achieve in the world of corporate media. However, there are those who protest without any direction. I remember going to the one in DC May of 2000 and saw kids there wearing GAP clothing protesting the WTO. How hypocritical. There are those who attend these because they think it's the "hip" think to do. They might have seen a Rage video (who are also hypocritical. MTV?), or read a blurb about it in Rolling Stone. Also, there are those kids who protest whil their parents make 6 figures, come from wealthy families, go to rich and exclusive Ivy League schools, and just do this out of guilt or to fool ordinary people that they've "always cared" or they "feel their pain". So it's interesting what kind of people you will find at one of these rallies. Some are decent people and some are hypocrates. Why Roon a Good Time?
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| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 09-08-2001 @ 9:20 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | SK is totally right about the mass media portraying this wrong. You know why? Who are these protestors protesting aganist? Corporations becoming too powerful and commiting bad practices. Who owns the media? Corporations. Of course there will be hypocritical people at any protest. The problem is not any Gap. There is not one single clothing manufacturer that will come out and say that they will not produce sweat shop clothes. The majority of people protesting are peaceful. Sure the black bloc will show up and could cause problems but that is a tiny minority. But the majority of people have good reason to come. Resident Board Socialist Email me here or IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought no one into the International | ||||
| Spork | posted on 09-08-2001 @ 11:10 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Bah, ALL of these protestors are insolent little FUCKS who don't know how good they've got it. Bitch. Whine. Repeat. That's what these people are all about, really. If you're in the United States there is a simple recipe for success: Get smart, work harder than the next guy, come up with some great ideas, be responsible for yourself. This professional protestor movement is spawned from: A) American lame-ass slackers who have nothing better to do with their time than wreak havoc and complain about how "the man" is keeping them down. Blah blah blah. Go to fucking work and if you don't like your work go start a company and be your own boss. Great thing about this country is you'll be encouraged to do that. B) Even lamer-ass Eurotrash who are so heartbroken that the United States is the genesis of all grand advances in the world. They look at us with spite and with envy and need to make damn sure that we don't over-extend our influence on the world stage. The sun has set on all their empires I'm afraid, too bad no one told them! Oh, but we don't UNDERSTAND what these people are protesting because WE must be the ignorant ones. Riiiiight. How about we take Jay Leno down there and start interviewing this schmucks and see what they have to say about the important issues of the day. I'm guessing that a good percentage might respond with a Beavis-like "Fire! Fire! Fire!" These protestors all have one thing in common: they HATE capitalism. THAT is what this is all about. It's not about liberty or sovereignty or anything else. These things are all red herings, all strawmen that these whack jobs prop up for the media to report on (and the mainstream media gives these people MORE than enough coverage). These protestors, who so rail against their government powers being usurped by evil big multinational corporations would absolutely LOVE IT if say the United States were simply a small cog in a WORLD GOVERNMENT that was run out of Brussels. Then we could bend to their socialist ways. Well screw that! Take your communism and your socialism and shove it right up your ass because the United States doesn't want it and we definitely don't need it! Things run VERY well here. We all work very hard for the things that we have. While those slack ass Europeans and the rest of the world take more and more time off work, we work harder. And I'll be damned if MY hard work goes towards paying for people who don't want to work as hard as me. Capitalism is good. It kicks ass. Maybe we should start holding anti-protests celebrating all the GREAT things that capitalism has brought us?  "Look how hot they're getting. And that's an old picture," Anthony says. | ||||
| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 09-09-2001 @ 12:03 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Spork I'm just going to bring up a couple of things so you can focus on those. First of all under the wto, nafta, and the ftaa corporations can sue the government. Now as a conservative you constantly complain about wasted tax money. Well there is tax money going to corporations because the government may have been "limiting their profits". Under U.S. law this would have had you laughed out of the courtroom. But under these organizations you can get millions of tax dollars because the government forced you to remove a harmful additive. Normal American workers lose their jobs over these agreements. Many american workers along the Mexican border lost their jobs and had to settle for a job that paid for about 3/4 the original. Can you say drop in the standard of living? One last example. People in poorer countries generally can't afford expensive life-saving drugs. So they opt to take the generic version that has the same effects. Under these agreements Pharmaceutical companies can force the Generic drug makers from stopping their practices because it infringes on copyright law. Copyright over lives. What a great world we live in. We all thought lars was a fucking jackass for taking our music how would you feel if you took your health? I still haven't seen one good argument for these agreements yet that benefit anybody but corporations. Resident Board Socialist Email me here or IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought no one into the International | ||||
| Dan-O | posted on 09-09-2001 @ 1:18 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Nov. 00 | quote: heh heh... weed... boobies...  "Art isn't easy" | ||||
| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 09-09-2001 @ 4:46 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | I'll give another example. UPS recently sued the Canadian government for "unfair competition" for having a federal postal service. Of course this trial will not be in a court of law but a tribunal that heavily favors corporations. Resident Board Socialist Email me here or IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought no one into the International | ||||
| DasDoomper | posted on 09-09-2001 @ 9:10 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote: That's funny, I though the Democratic Party owned them? DasDoomper  | ||||
| Spork | posted on 09-09-2001 @ 11:41 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Canada Post sucks anyway - they're awful. No Saturday deliver or anything - blechhh! Regardless, there are obviously some issues that need to be hammered out with NAFTA just as there are with any sort of trade treaty. Folks use whatever loopholes they can to gain advantage either for their country or their government. DHL in Canada could turn around and sue the United States for the existence of the USPS as well, so it's just goofy all around. So quite clearly we should march in the streets and start looting because of all of this... right... Maybe we should remember the good old days of the Smoot-Hawley tarriff and the introduction of the RTAA which then evolved into GATT. There are fantastic reasons why we want to trade internationally. Free trade not only benefits the U.S. it benefits all the parties involved. Protectionism is not the answer. Forcing the United States back into policies of isolationism is not the answer. Think about why we engage in international trade in the first place. We deal with countries which have, economically speaking, "comparitive advantage" in whatever item it is they are exporting. We make computers, Brazillians make coffee. We export computers and import coffee, they import computers and export coffee, and so on and so on. So would we much rather slap a whole bunch of tarriffs on coffee from Brazil making it more expensive for Americans and thus reducing consumption, thus harming those harvesting the coffee beans in Brazil? Should we keep people in Zambia away from harmful American products and let them enjoy their hole to shit in in their back yard? I dunno man, because it seems pretty bizarre to me. Who are the anti-globalists really trying to protect here? It would seem to me that those championing the cause of the third world have to be at odds with those union members opposing this thing. Besides, in the cases of health emergencies I am quite sure that national sovereignty will always take precendence. Look at Brazil again. They have a giant national health emergency because their general populace likes to fuck freely without the use of rubbers so a lot of the populace contracts HIV. Brazil suspends the intellectual property rights of American pharmaceutical companies and starts manufacturing shitloads of generic AZT and other anti-AIDS drugs. Super. A country will do what it has to do to survive, and no trade agreement will stop them. Hopefully countries like Brazil won't complain when the drug companies have to slow down their research because of all the R&D money they're losing out on. Are there problems with these agreements? Yes. The United States government still behaves in an unnecessarily protectionist way. The current slapping on of tarriffs against Canadian softwood lumber and the continued use of the Jones Act barring the export of Canadian marine vessels are but two of these types of things, but again, is it worth running around in the streets acting like a lunatic about? Nope. "Look how hot they're getting. And that's an old picture," Anthony says. | ||||
| leather-cheerio-face | posted on 09-10-2001 @ 11:04 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote: WHOA, who else is spending the weekind with my dad? I'm just kidding, dad, I swear. please dont hit me...  | ||||
| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 09-10-2001 @ 5:27 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Free trade is a term used loosely. Fair Trade is a better alternative. All these agreements are just propestorous as to how much evil shit they can ram down our throats. Also brazil doesn't apply as much because MAI was stopped dead in its tracks by the protestors. However Brazil could in the future(with the advent of the FTAA) be forced to stop making it's own AIDS drugs. If it doesn't it will receive trade sancitions. The WTO can change U.S. laws and has done so. We got a weaker clean air bill because some southeast asian complained it was "unfair". Lunatics? The majority of protestors are peaceful. The corporate media just likes to focus on the bad(gee I wonder why). Resident Board Socialist Email me here or IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought no one into the International | ||||
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