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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: If you need a gas mask | ||||
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| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 10:40 AM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00  | For any morons out there who think they need a gas mask. free gas masks for $195  | ||||
| hornygoatweed I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 10:50 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Speaking of masks, I am reminded of a few people I saw last week (when the dust and smell was still fairly strong in the air) that were wearing those filter masks when they went outside - only to temporarily take them off as they took a drag on their cigarette! Does that make ANY sense??? quote: That is provided you pay the lifetime membership fee - otherwise choke on it like everyone else. It was only a matter of time before something like this came about.  I've got two open seats. Email me here or AIM me at Organic999 to apply!! | ||||
| ClusterF@#$ | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 12:39 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: Hey thanks... you call all of us to tell us, but you only give us one goddamn gas mask. Talk about tough decisions.... jesus! Thanks, Pal!!!
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| IrishAlkey Chucky Official OA.com Homo CUNT ROCKETTE Look who's laughing now, fuckers!!! Is It In Yet? JYD-4-LIFE [Sarcasm]Subzero316 fan since day one!!1!![/Sarcasm] "my mod powers are on temporary hiatus" This status is sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥hέm | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 12:50 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Aug. 01 | I thought this was gonna have something to do with eating at Taco Bell...pleasant surprise! | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 12:52 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Well if you care enough about your family, you can spend $150 for each person. If they knew enough in advance of a terrorist attack, wouldn't they have gotten the planes before they hit the WTC and pentagon. | ||||
OA.com's Bodyguard Anger problem? What anger problem? I hate the fucking mud! USA | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:02 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | The most pathetic part about this is they say they will notify you when an attack is imminent. Um hello, but by that time it's most likely too late and whatever shit they use is in the air. Way to make sure the public is safe you money grubbing assholes! :(
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| FeelMyFunBags | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:45 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Thankfully, my office is ordering us gas masks as well as other items to put in a survivor kit. It's really scary to think about it, but I know when I am in the city and working at least I will feel a little bit of security. Is anyone seriously considering buying a gas mask for their homes? I was actually thinking of investing in one as well as a haz-mat suit. "I know every one of you, I know the sea of torment, doubt, despair and unbelief." -Walt Whitman USA | ||||
| Ken'sPen [Sarcasm] Doesn't Live Up To The Hype [/Sarcasm] I should have stayed OVER THERE | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:57 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | Lucky for me I have all my Y2K survival supplies stored in my parent's state of the art 1955 bomb shelter. | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 2:03 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Wouldn't chemical warfare eat through your clothes and skin anyway so you would be able to breathe but you would be dead anyway? | ||||
| X-Filed Rich Vos is the emobdiemnt of all that is teh funney | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 2:42 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote: Well yea..First off, You wouldn't even know your were exposed to chemicals until you became sick. That would mean you would be wearing the mask or carrying it around with you all the time. Second, alot of the chemicals would eat right through your skin, you would have to be wearing special chemical suits...... "In the end Opie and Anthony always win!!" | ||||
| Doc Smith I Love Anthony Zinni | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 2:53 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | OK, you guys have finally done it. You made me reach my stupidity "fill" point. The point at which I see so much moronic behavior that I have to say something.quote:Uh, no By chemical weapons, they mean Sarin gas, VX gas, cyanide, shit like that. Not some scary acid vapor that comes across like a yellow cloud and eats everything. When you dump a chemical agent into the atmosphere it becomes very diluted very quickly. There are no special chemicals that can eat though you home at those levels. Sorry There are chemical agents that in small concentrations can kill you by disabling certain enzymes in your body or inhibiting the ability of your red blood cells to hold oxygen, but you still need a certain concentration of that stuff in the air to do you in. Hell, a group of whack jobs in Japan tried to kill people with Sarin gas (a nerve gas) in a subway a few years back. In a SUBWAY, how much less ventilation do you want? and you know how many people died? 10 That's right, only 10 people. We have much greater things to be scared about than chemical weapons, like succuming to our fear.  Whether we bring our enemies to justice, or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done. | ||||
| X-Filed Rich Vos is the emobdiemnt of all that is teh funney | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 3:09 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | ok, whatever. My point was that people are making a big freaking deal about gas masks. Gas masks won't matter either way.... THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR BIG HUGE JUGS OF MILK!!! | ||||
| crx girl Newbie! vg Y's me ugo girl Limey Mothercocker | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 3:15 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote:thank you doc. in the last couple of weeks that incident has come into conversation a few times with people saying, "remember a few years ago when they released gas in a japanese subway and killed THOUSANDS of people" i'd been thinking it was really not too many people, now i know i'm not crazy.  An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. --Victor Hugo regardless of my status, i am a nice person. no really, i am, i swear;) crack hitler belongs to me :) need me? try: [email protected] | ||||
| Scrappleking | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 3:16 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | We used to take bong hits with a gas mask and an attachment hose. "Somebody took my phone number and called Afghanistan. Afghanistan! I've never talked to anyone in Afghanistan, I don't know nobody in Afghanistan, and even if did know anyone, I wouldn't talk to that Afghan ass for three hours! I won't talk to my daddy for three hours." | ||||
| Doc Smith I Love Anthony Zinni | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 3:19 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:Well, I wouldn't go that far ;) quote:Try telling that to the Marines who served in the Gulf War Whether we bring our enemies to justice, or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done. | ||||
| DR. Buster Hymen | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 10:20 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | OK everyone, Doc S. is mostly right. Gas masks aren't gonna be of much use for the general population. These are best used for Chemical agents; which are usually used in a small area. They aren't good for mass attacks & there are antidotes. There are some agents that can cause chemical burns, but I don't see these guys getting a hold of these (esp. now). IMHO, Biologics & Nuclear threats are a much higher risk for mass casualties. Al Qeda has been attempting to get nuclear materials (as per 60 Minutes II). Personally, there would be nothing we could do about this. Biologics are called "The Poor Man's Nuclear Weapons". The 2 most likely agents are Smallpox & Anthrax. Smallpox has been fairly well controlled, & anyone born before 1970 has been vaccinated. There are treatments, but most Docs wouldn't recognize symptoms until there were MANY cases. I believe that Anthrax would be the most likely weapon of choice. The spores are hardy(they survive in the air-unlike HIV). They could be spread by cropdusters & they have been readily available(several Aryan Nation guys easily got cultures a few years back). By the time you would know this happened, there would already be millions who were sick (death takes about a week). There are treatments; vaccines take about 1-2 years to complete, & there will be no supplies till sometime next year! I doubt that most gasmasks would protect against this. You need Biohazard suits for real protection. I am looking into getting a mask just in case I need to go into a future attack like the WTC, because of the dust & toxic materials(ex asbestos). So, the rest of you guys should just relax; there is really nothing that YOU can do to protect yourself (other than moving to NORAD & living underground). I just hope that the government will continue this continuous protection of our vulnerable areas. And on another note, if there is anyone living around Ground Zero, I heard that people are being instructed to have their apartments cleaned by a Haz-Mat team (not a cleaning service). I would heed that advice. quote: If you are referring to "Gulf War Syndrome", a single etiology has not been found (chemical or biologic). And those affected DID have gasmasks & suits. And this service is a SCAM. What happens if they fail to notify you & you die??? Do they give you a refund then?? DR. Buster Hymen Spread Your Legs & Say Aaahhhh [email protected] This message was edited by DR. Buster Hymen on 9-26-01 @ 10:30 PM | ||||
| Joe Soprano | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 10:24 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | quote: Gosh... more bad news for Joey Paesano...  | ||||
| GonzoStyle | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 12:20 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | quote: if they are $195 dollars how are they free?  "For all we have and are, for all our children's fate, stand up and take the war, the Hun is at the gate!" --- Rudyard Kipling She-Mail Me Here | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 7:25 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Gonzo, the website says you get one free gas mask when you pay $195 for them to call you when there is an attack. | ||||
| Doc Smith I Love Anthony Zinni | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 2:23 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:I guess I didn't make my point clear. I meant that if you served in the ground forces in the Gulf War, you were given a gas mask and instructed to wear much of the time. So if they didn't matter, why were they given out? So they actually do work against most airborne nasties. I wasn't refering to Gulf War Syndrome, since evidence points to several causes, such as post-traumatic stress disorder, complications from the Anthrax vaccine which gets about 2% of the people who take it sick, crap like that. Whether we bring our enemies to justice, or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done. | ||||
| VooDude | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 6:51 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | quote:There are 4 major catagories of chemical agents: Choking: designed to cause choking, caughing, impaired eyesight. Nerve: designed to cause failure of the central nervous system. Blood: designed to prevent blood from absorbing oxygen Blister: designed to cause blisters on the skin and inside the lungs. Also impairs vision. The most famous blister agent is Mustard Gas. It's been around since WWII, and it's easy to manufacture and deliver. It will cause blisters on the skin, and if inhaled will cause the inside of the lungs to blister. It is not effective when used over a large area because it disperses too fast. However, think of the terror factor if this stuff were used on civilians, even if no one died. Nerve agents are normally inhaled, but can be abosrbed through small cuts or scratches in the skin. Military members carry a nerve agent antidote kit when they are deployed to an area that may be attacked. The kits contain auto-injectors with atropine and pralidoxime chloride. I don't believe these anitdotes are readily available to the general public. There is no first-aid or antidote for blood agents. Gas masks, with the proper filters, will protect you from inhaling chemical agents, and will protect the eyes. For skin protection, the military uses a chemical protective overgarment (CPOG), which is a cloth suit with a charcoal lining. It works ok for chemical defense, but it's effectiveness against biologicals is questionable. Military members have been receiving Anthrax vaccinations as part of the DoD Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP)for the last 3 or 4 years. The vaccinations include a series of 6 shots given over an 18 month time frame followed by annual booster shots. I've had 5 of the first 6 shots, and have not had any side effects. However, the program has been suspended because the only company that makes the stuff (BioPort) has not been able to manufacture the stuff fast enough. If this post hasn't bored you enough already, email me and I will continue with my Nuclear, Biological, Chemical (NBC) lecture...
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| DR. Buster Hymen | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 8:47 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | Voodude,I agree with most of what you wrote. In terms of safety of your CPOG from Biologics, most likely not. Also, the anthrax vaccine has been considered to be OK, but has never been tested on a large scale. Nowadays, it's at least worth the try. I'm still looking into the gasmask filters as to whether or not they are sufficient to protect against anthrax spores (as this is the main route of infection). The auto injector kits are also not available commercially to the public. In addition, most people could not use these. And there are treatments for "Blood" agents (ex Cyanide). However, it requires immediate treatment before the poison acts (ie poor treatment). So, people, the lesson here is there is little that you could do to protect yourselves. The key here is to prevent future attacks. DR. Buster Hymen Spread Your Legs & Say Aaahhhh [email protected] | ||||
| GonzoStyle | posted on 09-28-2001 @ 1:33 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | quote: Lol what a scam that is like people who sell bootleg music and videos on ebay. they sell you a piece of paper and the tape comes free with the piece of paper, they warn you that you are not paying for the tape but for the sheet of paper, lol. I gotta admit it trully is very creative. "For all we have and are, for all our children's fate, stand up and take the war, the Hun is at the gate!" --- Rudyard Kipling She-Mail Me Here | ||||
| Numb Nutts | posted on 09-28-2001 @ 9:50 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | Gonzo...Finally someone who finally realized it. When I looked at the site, I knew right awayt it had to be a scam. You most likely pay the money and get NOTHING....HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PROVE THEM TO BE A SCAM IF YOUR ALREADY DEAD. What a great idea. If they made a decent site I bet some people would actually fall for it. Land of the free, Home of the Brave. | ||||
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