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| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 01-25-2002 @ 2:07 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00  | I still don't believe this article because I don't want to believe that something like this could happen. However, in our society where tobacco companies were, for awhile, the great evil because we can't seem to handle taking responsibility for ourselves I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet. In other words, lawyers are attempting to create a class action law suit against Junk Food makers for causing people to die and get ill and obese from their products. and yes, this was just a simpsons episode. I won't post the article but here it is.  "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." | ||||
| TheGooch Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh? | posted on 01-25-2002 @ 2:14 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | OK...here's a different take. Yes, people are responsible for what they buy. No doubt. However, when millions of dollars are marketed for these products, and most of America is obese, it makes you think. There is a cause and effect here. The availibility of the products I will never have issue with (eating a Twinkie...mmmmpgh...mppghhhhh) but, lets get one thing straight: Ads have affect. We are assaulted everyday in every media medium with advertising propaganda...do not tell me these things don't have an affect, b/c anyone will tell you, they do. Well, there lies an issue: Cause and effect. By pushing these products, propagandizing their need for fiscal capital, they are, thereby making their consumers fat. And, take a look at some of these products. Carbohydrates are addictive. They feed your blood sugar, and then make you hungry only a little bit later....you think Hostess doesn't know this. Au contraire...they all do, and they take advantage of it. And that, is the basic issue, and it will never be addressed or dealt with. My stance is that their advertising has cause and effect, and they have to take into account the negative (fat outbreak) along with the positive (profits), and be responsible for both.  Here's a tip that will save you alot of grief and time... Don't believe in and depend on anyone but yourself. | ||||
| Tequila Fez claims this land in the name of Portugal! Why worry about the train if it never makes it around the tracks?? IrishAlkey wuz here!!! | posted on 01-26-2002 @ 10:37 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jan. 01 | Look at Gooch defending the Twinkie. AOL/AIM - oanda1027fm | ||||
| The Painter 1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all | posted on 01-26-2002 @ 10:40 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Technically, this isn't the twinkie defense. That goes back to that guy Milken(?) in SF. I've been ranting about class action suits against fast food for years. I've been saying some lawyer will pick this up and run with it for a long time. Fast food is unhealthy, and there is no warning on it. They use toys, cartoons, and clowns to target kids. If Joe Camel was directed at kids and was bad, Ronald McDonald is just as bad.  | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 01-26-2002 @ 11:45 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | quote: With that logic, companies that sell bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, corn, and carrots should have their asses sued as well. They are very high on the glycemic index causing the very same 'They feed your blood sugar, and then make you hungry only a little bit later.' Also, those companies should be sued before Nestle, Hershey and M&M Mars 'cause those products rate higher on the glycemic index 'the rate at which the carbohydrate breaks down into Glucose. Gatorade and the like are a main culprits because their carbohydrate is already broken down into glucose before you drink it. How 'bout people educate themselves and don't believe the advertisements. Some time during the early nineties, I thought this generation saw through all of the 80's advertising bullshit... guess not.  AIM: SmarterChild Write To Me Here
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| OAAWITE | posted on 01-26-2002 @ 1:10 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | Dude this has already happened before. (AP) June 19, 2001 HERSHEY, PA—In one of the largest product-liability rulings in U.S. history, the Hershey Foods Corporation was ordered by a Pennsylvania jury Monday to pay $135 billion in restitution fees to 900,000 obese Americans who for years consumed the company's fattening snack foods. "Let this verdict send a clear message to Big Chocolate," said Pennsylvania Attorney General Andrew Garsten, addressing reporters following the historic ruling. "If you knowingly sell products that cause obesity, you will pay." The five-state class-action suit accused Hershey's of "knowingly and willfully marketing rich, fatty candy bars containing chocolate and other ingredients of negligible nutritional value." The company was also charged with publishing nutritional information only under pressure from the government, marketing products to children, and artificially "spiking" their products with such substances as peanuts, crisped rice, and caramel to increase consumer appeal. Jurors took less than five hours to reach the decision following a two-year trial covering nearly one million snackers in Pennsylvania, Florida, New Hampshire, Arizona, and Texas. A majority of the unprecedented punitive damages will go toward obesity victims and their immediate families. The remainder will be funneled into weight-loss and youth-snacking prevention programs. "This is a vindication for myself and all chocolate victims," said Beaumont, TX, resident Earl Hoffler, holding a picture of his wife Emily, who in 1998 succumbed to obesity after nearly 40 years of chocoholism. "This award cannot bring Emily back, but I take some comfort knowing that her tragic, unnecessary death did not go unpunished." Hoffler's teary-eyed account of his wife's brave battle against chocolate was widely regarded as the emotional high point of the trial. First introduced to Hershey's chocolate as a young trick-or-treater, Emily quickly developed a four-bar-a-day habit, turning in adulthood to Hershey's Special Dark, a stronger, unfiltered form of the product. By age 47, she had ballooned to 352 pounds and was a full-blown chocoholic. What little savings the family had was drained by Weight Watchers memberships, Richard Simmons videotapes, and Fat Trapper pills, all of which proved futile and only prolonged the Tofflers' agonizing ordeal. Equally pleased by the ruling was Mel Brewer of Phoenix, whose father received free chocolate as a soldier during World War II. "Dad came back from Europe hooked," Brewer said. "Before long, he was going through a case of Mounds and Mr. Goodbars a week. He wouldn't eat ice cream without Hershey's chocolate syrup and crushed Heath bars on it. He died of a heart attack at age 54 weighing 415 pounds." With litigation pending against the nation's top five chocolate makers, including a $102 billion Mississippi suit against Nestle, the entire industry is on alert. Big Chocolate has already suffered numerous major setbacks in recent years. In 1997, a California judge ordered chocolate manufacturers to fund $27 billion in education programs to prevent youth chocolate consumption. In 1999, a federal judge prohibited chocolate advertising on TV and billboards and banned the use of cartoon imagery in advertising. In addition, the judge ruled that a warning label must be placed on all chocolate products reading, "The Surgeon General Has Determined That Eating Chocolate May Lead To Being Really Fat." Lawyers for the Hershey Corporation said the company intends to appeal the decision, which could drive the price of a 1.4-ounce pack of Rolos as high as $1.29. "Adult consumers know the risks involved in using our products," Hershey's chief counsel Marvin Black said. "They know that if not used in a responsible manner, there can be some negative consequences. But this is true of anything in life. Further, the decision to use our products is one that has always been left up to the individual. The Hershey Corporation has never forced anyone to use its products, nor has it ever intentionally added substances to its candies to increase addictiveness. If consumers are hooked, it is only because of said candy's overwhelmingly delicious chocolate goodness." Whatever the outcome of the Hershey's appeal, the chocolate industry has irrevocably changed as a result of Monday's verdict. "For over a century, Hershey's has lived off the fat of the land," Erie, PA, claimant Pamela Schiff said. "Now it's time to pay us back."  This message was edited by OAAWITE on 1-26-02 @ 1:13 PM | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 01-26-2002 @ 1:29 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | quote:I know about the original Twinkie defense and how it was used to try and get this guy off of a murder charge. This is a sort of play on words, like a second twinkie defense. "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." | ||||
| FeelMyFunBags | posted on 01-26-2002 @ 4:30 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | ::shakes head in disbelief:: Its stories like this that really make me wonder about the field I am going into. As much as advertising may help sell a product, no one forces anything down your throat...do the fries in McDonald's commericals look good? Of course they do, but the average individual knows that you can't eat them every day...you shouldn't be able to sue over your lack of self control....once we allow that, what's next allowing people to sue restaraunts with buffets for not controlling their caloric intake?  Sometimes I feel this is too scary to be true...I sabotage myself for fear of losing you USA | ||||
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