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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 8:48 PM      
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I've been thinking about this for a while and I'm wondering who from the board has gone down to ground zero to pay your respects and if you haven't why not?

Personally I haven't been down to ground zero yet and I'm not sure I want to go. Hell I've only been to the city twice since sept. to begin with and nowhere near ground zero. Will I go there someday, probably but I don't see that happening for some times but I may be wrong on that. Anyway, have you been or if not, why haven't you been down there?



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i havent gone because i dont go to the city alot. i want to go see the towers of light one of these days, so maybe then i will go see.


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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 8:58 PM      
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I went down and all I can say is, what you see on TV is nothing compared to seeing it in person. It made me very angry seeing it in person.




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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 9:04 PM      
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As I type this I can see the light towers from my bedroom window. I went to pay my respects a few months ago.... on Sep 11th I could do nothing but watch the smoldering towers from a scenic overlook in Jersey, and watched them fall through the clouds of smoke, miles away. I felt so helpless. So making homage/paying my respects is something I felt I had to do. Something I will never forget... the twisted metal, the dust, but most of all, the smell.

Edit.... I also was on a wedding cruise a few months ago up the Hudson where we were able to get pretty close. While passing ground zero, the entire boat went silent. The one lasting impression other than how silent that boat was, was the sight of the scalded buildings that surrounded the site.... the remnants/scars that were left as reminders of what happened that day. It tore me up.


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darthziggy
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First off let me say that it's been extremely hard being up in New Hampshire all this time and only being able to go down to the city a few times. I felt so useless for most of the time in September, and I was terribly frustrated at the people up here - mostly New Englanders who I felt just didn't understand what was going on (and they didn't, but no offense intended, they simply cannot comprehend the impact, because very few of them had ever been into the city before then). I couldn't believe that the teachers here wanted to go on with lesson plans later that night and the next day, only taking a few minutes at the beginning of class to see if anyone had any concerns.
I've been into the city 3 times since September. The first I wasn't able to get down there, the second I went and walked around, looking at the banners and things that people have sent in and posted and whatnot. Just seeing that shook me up pretty badly. I was then able to get down to the city with my school's hockey team in January, and during some off time we travelled around the city in our coach bus. That gave us a little hight, enabling us to see over the crowds and into the wreckage as we drove down Broadway. That was a terrifying sight to me, probably a little dampened because of my previous visit but still having a great effect on me. It was also interesting to see the disturbing faces of all of my teammates, none of whom were from New York City nor had they seen the site since September.
I will hopefully get a chance to go into the city next week during my spring break, and if I get time I will definitely try to see the light tribute, as I feel it is a very interesting idea and I want to see what the atmosphere surrounding it is like.

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i went, didn't know you needed tickets, so actually didn't get to see anything. haven't gone back since because my schedule and the person i was going with's schedule haven't coincided.


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I went a couple of months ago, waited on line for 3 and a half hours, but it was worth it. Even though I couldnt really see much, I paid my respects and while on the line met people from all over the country and basically shared stories as to "where were you when it happened" The whole experience was something I will never forget


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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 9:54 PM      
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I was down there less than a week after it happened. My father's company was immediately brought in to feed the workers, so I did the overnight shift with him one night.

I was right there for the entire night and morning, and had the opportunity to stand on the opposite corner from where the towers stood. It was the most powerful thing I have ever laid eyes upon. This was before any debris had been removed really, when the stench of burnt flesh and hair mixed with cement and dust still hung in the air.


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quote:
...when the stench of burnt flesh and hair mixed with cement and dust still hung in the air.


Froy, you should forget writing for Norton and consider writing for Springsteen. That is some beautiful, poetic imagery you got going there.



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posted on 03-15-2002 @ 12:40 AM      
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I went down the 1st Saturday after it happened just to convince myself it really happend, but only got as close as Church & Canal Street. There was nothing more surreal that driving around the city that week....the Dazed looks on everyones faces...just the fact that no matter who i looked at as i drove around , you knew exactly what was on there mind.

A couple of weeks later I went down w/ my father because he had men working @ the AMEX building... Words can't even describe the devastation that was/is down there...






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I was just down there a few hours ago. It seems to me that its an area with a huge crater that just has no life. Many businesses have been shutdown. and there were people wandering around as if this were a wasteland not lower manhanhattan. I still cant believe in that area over 3000 people died like that.

The tower of lights however was a beautiful tribute. I took pictures of them up close and I'll post them shortly. Its something to save for future generations of my family.



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quote:
Its something to save for future generations of my family.


Future generations? That's a pretty lofty goal. How 'bout ya try getting laid first? May I recommend the Get Me Laid Section of this piece of shit website?



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I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?



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I have gone there a few times since 9/11. I work in lower Manhattan (by the SI Ferry), so it's pretty hard not to go. I was there the week that they actually started letting people get "close" to the scene, and as said in an earlier post, seeing it on TV is nothing compared to seeing it in person. The news gives a wide-angle shot, but you don't get a sense of the actual amount of destruction. Plus not seeing the Towers there - even today - is still a weird sight to see, and not one that I thought I would ever see in my lifetime.

I have been lucky enough to have had to work late enough this week to see the Towers of Light coming home on the Ferry, and its wonderful. People now cram the back of the ferry to get a sight, and the further away from Manhattan the boat goes, the more the skyline looks "normal" (if there is such a thing).


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posted on 03-15-2002 @ 11:47 AM      
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Let's take a blast to the moon baby

I sit around wishing you well

How I'm craving you, yeah!

Every time I'm near you

I always wanna swallow you down

I'll be right here if ya' need me

In my life, I'll need you here, don't ask why

I'll never disappear

Why is it everyday that I feel the pain?

Let's take a trip to the stars far away

Where were you when I was down?

Staring into the dead

My pain is caused by my pleasure

My soul mate lives in your body

I can't get you out of my head

It never goes away

In my life, I'll need you here, don't ask why

I'll never disappear

In your eyes you can bid me farewell

But don't ever try to understand the situation

Why is it everyday that I feel the pain?


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Yes, I have volunteered there so far three times at St. Pauls and got a tour with a few firefighters I know. It's an experience that really changes you once you get to see everything with your own eyes. Nuff' said.



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I haven't yet, but only because I live in Ohio and can't find anyone to make the drive with me. Not only that, but I don't really have the cash to make the trip. I've really been wanting to go, but just haven't been able to.



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quote:
I've missed you Slash.


I missed me too. :D



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I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?



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posted on 03-15-2002 @ 3:46 PM      
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I've avoided going down there.
I worked in the buildings on several occasions, and on 9/11 my company had a job at 30 W.Broadway, across the street from 7 WTC.

About a week after we were called in to assess the conditions of the buildings, but I chose to let others go.

It still seems somewhat morbid to me to go down just to see what happened. Obviously for those that go down to help, or because they lost someone it is different. I know at sometime I will need to go to the area, and then I'll see how I feel.

Froy - you mentioned the smell. It was amazing. Weeks later, blocks uptown, and the smell was still around.

The closest I've come is coming back to JFK we flew over the spot at about 4am. just weird seing the big empty spot with high intensity work lights, and knowing why its there.

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quote:
Future generations? That's a pretty lofty goal. How 'bout ya try getting laid first? May I recommend the Get Me Laid Section of this piece of shit website?


That was acheived and I wont get into that further. Please have some fucking respect. I'm talking about ground zero. No wonder why this board is dying.



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posted on 03-15-2002 @ 5:22 PM      
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My family and friends went as a group.We lost family and friends.If you have a case number you don't have to wait in line or buy tickets.I'm glad we waited.But just seeing that huge underground hole is fucking sickening.It is amazing from what I saw on TV that day and to see it now.To me it still a fucking god damn dream...

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posted on 03-15-2002 @ 8:23 PM      
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I have been there. About a month after 9/11. I walked from Canal street down to the staten island ferry. I passed by ground zero. It was fucking packed with people. Most just standing watching the iron workers. Alot of piece of shit pedlers hocking their shit.


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posted on 03-15-2002 @ 10:05 PM      
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Was there the week before Christmas. Made a trip to spend some Christmas shopping dollars downtown to help the merchants in the area. Went with my son and spent time reading the memorials and checking out all of the signs sent by people from around the world. It is quite a moving experience. And to see the void, just makes one angry all over again.



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No, but I want to pretty soon. I thankfully didn't lose anyone in the attack, but I still want to pay my respects to all the victims.

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posted on 03-19-2002 @ 8:14 AM      
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Just got back from there yesterday. Spent the morning at One Police Plaza (eating donuts ;) ). Three blocks away was ground zero - very moving.

I forgot how much I liked downtown NY. Aint nowhere in the world as alive as that place - imho.

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posted on 03-19-2002 @ 9:19 AM      
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I am going on Saturday or sunday, whichever is the nicer of the 2 days. I have driven into hoboken and seen the empty space which pisses me off all over again, but i want to go pay my respects to all those who were lost.



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