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knock411
posted on 05-02-2001 @ 5:38 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
Hey fellas. How have ya been. I have a question for those of you in the computer feild. Has anyone checked out or heard anything about the new Windows XP beta version? Im curious about it and was wondering what some of you heard or think of it. Thanks

The Heap
posted on 05-02-2001 @ 5:49 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
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knock411
posted on 05-02-2001 @ 6:01 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
Is it not worth the time checking out. Or is this something that they are just thinking of marketing.

Ronreddog
posted on 05-02-2001 @ 6:05 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Knock, go to the Microsoft website. You can sign up to be a beta tester of XP.

I have not checked it out yet. Still learning Win2K.

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Kid Afrika
posted on 05-02-2001 @ 6:10 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
IMHO, beta versions are not worth installing. They are bound to have bugs, and there's always problems finding drivers. To me, if your system is running well on the O/S you have, don't upgrade just to have the latest one. There is the "geek factor", but why deal with the headaches?


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knock411
posted on 05-02-2001 @ 6:13 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
Thats very true Kid. I think Ill load it on one of the computers at school and tool around with it there. Thanks guys for the input.

Kwyjibo
posted on 05-02-2001 @ 6:18 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 01
I read a great article on it. It was linked to from slashdot.com and then there was one on cnn.com. Xerox has banned the use of it. 3 techies decided to try the beta and brought down their entire computer system at one R&D center. The other article talked about running it. They had it on 2 system, a P4 1.5 gHz and an Athlon 1.1gHz. Each machine had 384 megs of ram. The outcome, it was too slow to use. It has so much fluff and poor coding that it is too bulky for the fastest home PC's on the market. The systems were a Dell and a Gateway. It was given a do not buy rating and even Micro$oft says not to upgrade to it, you should only get it on a new machine.

Hope this helps. Stick with 98 or 2000

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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 05-02-2001 @ 6:20 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
They say it will have the stability of 2000 with the compaitability of 9x/ME. 2000 is becoming more and more compaitable every day and XP scares me. First their piracy measures are wrong. Second they are trying to have a dumbed down interface and I remember the last time I did that didn't work out too well. And Microsoft always fails on the hype. 2000 wasn't hyped much and look at it.



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posted on 05-02-2001 @ 8:32 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
Knock, your best bet would be to wait for the finished product to be shipped out... and then wait a few more months for the first update package. :)
For now, if your current OS is working, don't stress with the upgrade yet. Just make sure all your drivers and software are up to date, and you're golden.



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SNAKEBITE
posted on 05-03-2001 @ 9:11 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 01
Knock-- MS Office XP will be released on May 31 of this year, so look for the OS to come out sometime early next year.

People aren't warming up to it because like Ron said they are still learning Win2K.
Also companies are getting feed up with new releases every 2 years by MS, way to costly.


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This message was edited by SNAKEBITE on 5-3-01 @ 9:16 AM
smex182
posted on 05-03-2001 @ 10:39 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
Kwyjibo: you left out that the cause of the shut down in Xerox was not because of Windows XP but because there was a bug in the cisco routers. XP was not the reason that the network crashed it was the router. Also I have a windows XP running on a PIII 600 with 256 ram no problem and I have XP server on a PIV 1.4 with 256 with no problem.

knock411,

The XP betas are pretty stable I have not had an issue thus far but I am only using it for business apps like email web etc no gaming or things of that nature. If you are going to load it I would recommend it not be your primary machine if all you want to do is flux with and see what it does but other then that I see no problems of loading it.

SNAKEBITE,

XP client for the consumer is scheduled for this Fall but Windows 2002 (the enterprise version of XP pro and Server)is expected for release early next year.

BTW My primary Machines are running XP Pro and Server. Let me know if you run accross any problems.



This message was edited by smex182 on 5-3-01 @ 10:49 AM
knock411
posted on 05-04-2001 @ 4:41 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
WOW great Info guys. Well preety much what I want to do is load it on a different machine and play around with it and see how it is. Just for fun Im not thinking of replacing it with what I have now. Now as far as a permanent os Should I stay with 98. Or upgrade to ME or 2000.

Kid Afrika
posted on 05-04-2001 @ 4:51 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 70
knock, if you have 128mb of RAM or more, I would recommend the Me upgrade. I have it on two machines and love it on my machine with 512mb of RAM, on the machine with 64mb it is dog-ass slow.

I've heard people complain about stability, but haven't experienced any problems myself.


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The Heap
posted on 05-04-2001 @ 5:28 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 70
I have tons of issues with ME.. I got a brand new Dell sittin here, shipped with ME, blue screened on boot up.. how much worse can it get.. it was all down hill after that.. several people I know HAD ME.. switched to 98SE because of RAM issues, startup issues, compatibility issues. You're best bet.. wait for SP2 for W2K.. then run with it.. otherwise even 2K is buggy.. shit.. they just released a patch for servers or advanced servers running IIS 5.0 with a HUGE security flaw. That is UNACCEPTABLE.


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Kwyjibo
posted on 05-04-2001 @ 5:41 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

you left out that the cause of the shut down in Xerox was not because of Windows XP but because there was a bug in the cisco routers.



I have read a few articles on it and this is the first I have heard that the cause was the router itself. I heard it was the Interface in XP. A bug in its code that screwed up the communications with the router. Granted, they should not have been running beta software in an important role.

I am glad to hear you are having good luck with it, you are the first I have heard that from. Basically, M$ added a bunch of useless bells and wistles is what I have been told. M$ needs to clean up their existing poor code before making more releases. I have had the best luck with 98SE.

HEAP-- Did you turn off the auto backup feature in ME. That is a big source of slowdown. Turn that off its not really needed. Also, go to

www.speedguide.net. They have some great stuff on config changes you should make to get it to run faster, as well as broadband connections.

Best of luck

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This message was edited by Kwyjibo on 5-4-01 @ 5:50 PM
NyquilJay
posted on 05-04-2001 @ 6:36 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Sep. 00
I'm testing XP (Win Me dual-boot) and was enjoying it until for some unknown reason I couldn't access my network. Win Me can access the network no problem.

That thing about only being to install the beta on 1 pc is load of crap. I had it on a couple pc's all installed from 1 pc.

High-Speed internet access lovers definitely benefit from XP. XP has it's own PPPoE connection program so you don't have to deal with WinPoet. I didn't even encounter the normal 30 second lag that some DSL users experience every 4-5 minutes. It has a built in Firewall too.

Compatibility Mode definitely needs work.

Has a quick format feature if installing on an unformatted HD, cuts formatting time by almost 30 minutes (depending on size of HD)

Overall the interface is good but definitely takes some adjusting. No blue screens or unresponsive programs. No problems with drivers, some problems with 3rd party software (EZ CD-CREATOR, Norton Anti-Virus)

That's about all I can think of at this moment

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knock411
posted on 05-04-2001 @ 7:16 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
Heap Did you ever get it running in ME or did ya switch to something else that worked?

Right now I have 96MB on my pc and a 400ghz proscessor (pentium II.) So I guess Ill have to get some more ram before I do anything. Now if I were to upgrade to ME can I remove it if I do not like it or once I install it thats it I cant downgrade?

adolescentmasturbator
posted on 05-04-2001 @ 7:27 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
The PPPOE and firewall are pretty much useless for me because I have a router. And no matter how good XP does it, it cannot defeat a hardware router in that area.



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Kwyjibo
posted on 05-04-2001 @ 7:34 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

Now if I were to upgrade to ME can I remove it if I do not like it or once I install it thats it I cant downgrade?



No, or at least not well. There are some third party programs out there for this, but they don't guarentee that they will do this will. I would backup the system and if you don't like it you can load the backup. The other option is to partition the drive and run the machine as a dual boot. If you don't like it then you can just remove the partition. It might be your best bet.

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Bartman
posted on 09-29-2001 @ 8:37 PM      
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Registered: Dec. 00
Okay im bringing this back to life to see what everyone now has to say about windows xp from all the reviews ive read it seems like its not gonna be bad at all except for that stupid product activation.....Discuss


and may i ask that is moved to the right forum aka. gaming

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This message was edited by Bartman on 9-29-01 @ 8:42 PM
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posted on 09-29-2001 @ 10:36 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

and may i ask that is moved to the right forum aka. gaming


Actually I think this belongs in the "Microsoft Sucks" forum...


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Kid Afrika
posted on 09-29-2001 @ 10:58 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 70
How about the fact that it uses hardware registration so that you have to re-register everytime you add/change hardware? XP is for suckers.


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posted on 09-29-2001 @ 11:35 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
quote:

I've heard people complain about stability, but haven't experienced any problems myself.


Windows Me sucks. I have nothing but problems with it. I now only use Win2k and it's been smooth sailing since. XP is supposed to have the same stable NT kernel that has made 200o work so well. I will be looking forward to checking it out. MS has also included a feature that will not allow you to install the OS into another system if the hardware differs by more than a few key components. this is to prevent it from being copied. You will have to call MS with the authentication code in order to install it to another machine.



This message was edited by Opie's Sack Lunch on 9-29-01 @ 11:43 PM
Kid Afrika
posted on 09-29-2001 @ 11:43 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

this is to prevent it from being copied.

This is the first O/S from Micro$oft to include any type of copy protection. I am deeply saddened by this. I always thought that it was cool that they didn't try to copy-protect shit, and they had to go and roooooooooooon it. Oh well, there will surely be a crack for it soon, if it doesn't already exist. HACK THE PLANET!!!


So what do you really wanna do when I get militant

Thought I was a pimp, flip the script if you can' get with this

They call me Big Boi, I be cappin with a big gun

Run up on it if you want it, then you bite the big one



Opie's Sack Lunch
posted on 09-29-2001 @ 11:52 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
quote:

HACK THE PLANET!!![/qoute]


If only I knew how that's done? Absolutely clueless.



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