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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: THE TRAGEDY IN ISRAEL PROVES GOD DOES NOT EXIST | ||||
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| FoundryMusicJeff | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 8:55 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01  | Controversial post, here I come. Yes, my friends, just another example of a merciful God dolling out his infinite love for his children. I've been reading the AOL message board on this very topic, after seeing the footage on CNN. Besides the usual assinine commentary, there were several people who jumped on the opportunity to blame the God for the atrocity. The Jews blamed the Palestinian God and the Palistinians blamed the Jewish God. When are people going to wake up and realize that God is nothing more than a myth, a dangerous sham propigated by men of power to keep people fighting amongst themselves and perpetually complacent. I see these fucking assholes on television all the time...the evangelists...preying on the insecurities of people enduring hard times, hocking thier cheap, religious icons in the name of the Lord only to line thier own pockets. Look at thier faces, mindless drones entranced, succumbing to thier will, operating on the faith in hope that this allmighty charlatan will save thier lives and bring them out of difficult times and into prosperity. It makes me sick. If there was any time for people to come out and support each other, it's right now..but we won't. Instead of believing in one another and having faith in one another, we fight over who is right, who is wrong, and who's God is true. I hope one day we either wake up or die together in a hailstorm of fiery death. Either would be a fitting end to our terribly misguided species. Chief Engineer of the Starship Foundry. (NCC 1841-A) Visit FoundryMusic & Chat  | ||||
| Kid Afrika | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:07 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | Be like George Carlin, worship the Sun and pray to Joe Pesci. Or you can worship and pray to a god that will banish you to the fiery pits of hell if you don't follow his rules, but he loves you. Carlin = Prophet THERE IS NO GOD!!!
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| Corinthia | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:07 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | Jeff, I just saw the whole thing myself. People never cease to make me wonder. Im still shaking my head at the whole thing. I do believe in God, but as an entity that helps me, not someone to blame things on..I lost my Brother and my Mom. I didnt "blame" God for it. I looked to him for solace. But you said it all, people are hypocrites looking for someone other then themselves to blame things on..God is an easy target. Hes not "here" to defend himself.  UFD'S "MORE GOODER" HALF E-Mail Me | ||||
| CriticsLoveSnatch i know better than to ask for a status from you mean ol' mods I shall call him mini-FTL | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | "Joe Pesci knows how to get things done. he does not fuck around. I asked god to take care of the barking dog next door for years with no luck. Joe Pesci straightened the fucker out with one visit. Its amazing what you can do with a simple baseball bat." - GC, Napalm & Silly Putty Now tell me if carlin isn't god, who is?  Props to PanterA for the sig "Never Underestimate the Power of Stupid People in Large Groups" My adopted mini-critics are Stefanie and BarbieDiesDos This message was edited by CriticsLoveSnatch on 5-25-01 @ 9:14 PM | ||||
| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:11 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | You people do have a lot of Marxist rhetoric in you, you just don't know it. But I feel there is a god. His name is Clapton.  Resident Board Socialist Email me at [email protected] or [email protected] IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag I have brought hummers4all into my comintern Now accepting more newbies for the Comintern | ||||
| GOD of PHUK | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:11 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | Oh, I happen to believe there IS a God. I just don't believe any of the standard bullshit about it/him/her. Actually, let me revise that. I believe there MAY be a god. If there is one, it is a mischeivous being who likes nothing more than to tweak things in different places. Some things in life are just too strange to be random and seem like they were thought up by an extremely perverse mind. Has chafed balls from Grumpy's constant sweating them since 5/13/01 Adopted by Fez as of 5-13-01 | ||||
| Spuds_Buckley | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:14 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: That is why races should never, ever mix! Preach all you want about racial and religous harmony, it will never happen. People should keep to their own.  I've tried nothing, and I'm all out of ideas! | ||||
| Kid Afrika | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:18 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | GOD | ||||
| CriticsLoveSnatch i know better than to ask for a status from you mean ol' mods I shall call him mini-FTL | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:19 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | QUESTION: why does every board discussion about god turn into 40 references to Kevin Smith and George Carlin? ANSWER: because those 2 are the closest thing to god on this planet. Props to PanterA for the sig "Never Underestimate the Power of Stupid People in Large Groups" My adopted mini-critics are Stefanie and BarbieDiesDos | ||||
| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:20 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Kid if God is Alanis Morisette than does that mean the holy land is Canada? But what you people are objecting aganist is Organized Religion and not the concept of a God itself. Religions almost always start out as loose connections but then may become Organized and Capitalist in essence. To object to organized religion is to object to its capitalist and controlling aspects. Resident Board Socialist Email me at [email protected] or [email protected] IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag I have brought hummers4all into my comintern Now accepting more newbies for the Comintern | ||||
| Kid Afrika | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:25 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | Alright AM its time to put an end to your mis-educated rhetoric. You can not classify my beliefs, because they are my own. I don't think that we have the mental capacity to understand what brought us here, or what our purpose is. I think it is completely assonine to think that we understand the world we live in. Are we so deluded to think that we are really the smartest species to ever exist? I don't buy it. People are entirely too stupid to be the most intelligent species ever. There is probably a more intelligent lifeform somewhere laughing at us, but it is not a deity. It can't be anything we could comprehend, because our intelligence is limited to our reality. A reality that is limited by our ability to comprehend.
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| Ants in My Pants Billy Prettiest Butterfly in the garden All Blow job poems ©Fez 2002-2003. I'm obsessed with Alkey's penis. | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:35 PM | | |||
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| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:35 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: You'd be suprised how deluded we are. And for some reason kid's last post reminds me of last weeks Outer Limits episode. Resident Board Socialist Email me at [email protected] or [email protected] IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag I have brought hummers4all into my comintern Now accepting more newbies for the Comintern | ||||
| The Brain | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:37 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: Bravo, Critics! :) Straight from Carlin's interview with Maxim Magazine: quote: I personally have never had a problem with any faith, so long as none of them try to push themselves on me as being the "right" one. Frankly, folks, we should just live our lives right, the way we all inherently know how. Which basically means be as happy in life as you can be, so long as you don't deny others their happiness.  "ARE YOU PONDERING WHAT I'M PONDERING?" | ||||
| Unicron | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:46 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Mar. 01 | you forget, jews killed god's son, so he still punishing them..... Hey...Charlie Ward said it  | ||||
| jewdown | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:56 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Great, I am so confused now. Can someone help me with this... "For the love of ________"? a. Clapton b. Alanis c. Hendrix | ||||
| CriticsLoveSnatch i know better than to ask for a status from you mean ol' mods I shall call him mini-FTL | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 9:56 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: So it MUST be true, right? lol Props to PanterA for the sig "Never Underestimate the Power of Stupid People in Large Groups" My adopted mini-critics are Stefanie and BarbieDiesDos | ||||
| knock411 | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 10:18 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | If mankind could just stop wondering the whats whos and why we are here and focus on moving forward we could accomplish alot together. Think about where we were and where we have come to now. We could have been deeper in space solved diseases instead of creating them to control population. And done many other great things. But we havent we focus on stupid things and fights and battles. The whole rascism issue has gotten out of control we are all people no matter the color or size or belief. We have acted very poorly on the behalf of black people in this country alone. I myself am a white man. And I really must say sometimes when I see movies or read stories of how the white man would treat a black man I am sometimes ashamed to be white. Its no wonder Black people grew up with so much anger look at all they have indured and still put up with today. Thats one of the things we as humans have to stop. We have to ban together and get along no matter what. If we can do this we can create a whole new world. anyway there was a point to be made here but some where along the way I lost it. lol I hate trying to get my thoughts out over a keyboard I need to express it vocally. This message was edited by knock411 on 5-25-01 @ 10:31 PM | ||||
| punkrocker | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 10:41 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | I don't beleive in god at all because well there is so much against him in his own book the bible: -Adam and Eve created by "god" have two children, both males, how does society continue after that? -The red sea in ancient times was considered that and all the rivers and body's of water attached to it, when moses raised his staff and the see split, doesn't it seen more likely that one of the rivers attached to the red sea was in low tide and that the jews crossed that and then when the egyptians came the tide started going back upward and the egyptians drowned.  | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 05-25-2001 @ 11:24 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | I personaly don't believe in God through my own feelings and contradictions of the "holy book." I hate when people talk about the Bible because all it is is a book/series. A popular book/series but a book/series nonetheless. We don't bow to Narnia, we don't pray to Harry Potter. Written by man, about men with characters and a lack of continuity. here's a site I found with a bunch of the inconsistencies here. All the footage proves to me is how cheap Jews are that they'll book a place with bad floors to save an extra $5. here's a page with Tripod Fucking Sucks Ass, bastards shut down my site which really only had sounds but a way for others to download it Eliza Dushku- Hotter Than Britney Read my column at Foundry This message was edited by IkeaBoy on 5-25-01 @ 11:36 PM | ||||
| katya_ann That's Miss Jesus Cooze to you! | posted on 05-26-2001 @ 5:26 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01 | Being the resident Jesus Freak, I suppose it's my place to say SOMETHING. I don't think that this tragedy, or ANY tragedy, is "proof" that God does or doesn't exist. No one thing could ever proove something as complex as God. I think it's time that people start thinking outside the box. God doesn't have to be male, female, or it. God is God. The Church teaches that God does not punish us here on earth. Karma, fate, whatever, God is not collapsing the floor of any dance hall. Look at it this way: A thing will either happen, or it will not. A floor was either contrusted properly, or it was not. There were either too many people on it, or there weren't. The fact is, that building was renovated recently, and the structure suffered because the workmanship was shoty. That sucks, no contest. But did God go out of his way to CAUSE that? And then, let's say that we all know for a fact that God does indeed exist, no speculation, we KNOW. In that case, do we make God responcible for OUR foibles, our weaknesses, out irresponcibility? Should God be held responcible for the laziness or lack of skill in a construction worker? Isn't it up to us as interacting people to take the responcibility of our mistakes? I don't see any point is claiming that one event, or any of history's tragedies PROVE that God doesn't exist. Ikeaboy: I'm not goin gto read the entire page that you posted right now because it's late, but I can gaurantee that I will, with a little time, be able to refute all of the "errors" that that site has picked out. The main problems with people picking out "errors" is misinterpretation, or taking the words too literly. The Church is constantly striving to teach Catholics and Christians that not every word is EXACTLY as it appears. Parables were meant to teach the formally uneducated in simple terms and metaphors and imaginative pictures that they could relate to, hence the "circle to represnt earth." P.S. I'm not out to prove non-Christians/Catholics wrong; but when an obviously Anti-Christian site is trying to tell viewers what the Church believes, I get worried. Anti-Christins tend to be MAD and have personal traumas related to being forced to go to mass by their parents, etc. When you want to hate something enough, any reason'll do.   More about me This message was edited by katya_ann on 5-26-01 @ 5:42 AM | ||||
| Spuds_Buckley | posted on 05-26-2001 @ 11:01 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | If God doesn't exist, how was time created? I've tried nothing, and I'm all out of ideas! | ||||
| paul the lizard | posted on 05-26-2001 @ 11:11 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: May. 01 | Folks, don't ask me how we got here, where humans came from, but I think everything in life is just a matter of luck and fate. But I think we all agree there's actually two Gods: Opie and Anthony. Don't worry about God, just enjoy your lives, imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try. Yes I'm a tool, but I love O&A just like the experts here!! | ||||
| Voyer bus window licker | posted on 05-26-2001 @ 11:51 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | wow... this is a surprise i open my newsday this morning and what do i see? IN AN INSTANT: TRAGEDY it shows one picture of them having fun and right below carnage  Graduated from Brokenjaw's school for newbies | ||||
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| posted on 05-26-2001 @ 12:03 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | The problem I have with Christianity is the negative influence it has had on society. Puritanism eventually evolved in Christianity, and a lot of our laws still reflect the now-Christian thinking in our older generation. The simple fact that the government spends any amount of money policing what should and should not be legal and/or free on the internet reflects a fear that they have that can only be classified as Christian in nature. The Catholic Church in particular is guilty of what I like to call "Projected Thinking". They make it their business to tell you what is right and what is wrong, how you should react to these things, and why God thinks they are wrong. Unfortunately, like most public schools, the church never teaches you about the real world. They don't teach you that faith cannot stop a bullet. They don't teach you what to do if your girlfriend's pregnancy test comes back positive. They just vehemently stress that you shouldn't be in those situations in the first place. If they DO say anything about what you should do if the latter happens, it is almost always somewhere along the line of, "Pray to the Lord Jesus our Savior." The Catholic Church as an organization is and has been rife with corruption, sex, and murder. Is this an organization you want telling you how to think? And although the Catholic Church as a whole is Puritannical, the individual "preachers" and "evangelists" from other faiths are the worst. I won't even go into that because of the sheer enormity of the problems with these self-appointed "mouthpieces of God", but contrary to a statement made in a previous post, I AM anti-Christian, but I am not MAD. I am not upset at the Catholic Church for trying to mold me into what they think is the righteous human being. These people themselves were raised to believe that is the right thing to do. I am angry at the people who mindlessly fall under this spell and blindly believe in something just to make themselves feel better. Personally, I think if you are depressed a good psychiatrist and a steady diet of the right medication can make you better. For others, they pray to Jesus, and if the matter is eventually resolved it is because of God or Jesus himself. To each his own, I guess. Sorry about the length, I just had a lot to say. Have you seen Grumpy's head stuck in Gaynard G Krabs' swollen pee-hole? Feel free to help them apart. They need it. Adopted by Fez as of 5-13-01 | ||||
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