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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Oh boy... AMD is toast. | ||||
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Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 10-16-2001 @ 5:28 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00  | First, know your history... Back in the mid-90's, some of you may remember a third competitor in the CPU war, called Cyrix. If so, you may also remember the point at which Cyrix died a horrible death, and the processor line that led to it. This was the line of processors to challenge Intel's higher-speed Pentiums and low Pentium-MMX chips. It was the Cyrix 6x86 - now, do you remember the clock speed? The super geeks like myself do.... Cyrix had a fancy way to get around things, by calling it: "6x86 166+ at 133MHz" What did this mean? In Cyrix sales-speak, this meant the processor had the PERFORMANCE of a 166, but the actual clock speed was 133. Remember, this was when there was a MAJOR, noticeable speed difference between the two. So when Cyrix duped everyone, they just kinda went to hell, faded into obscurity... So now you say to yourself.... FTL, ENOUGH WITH THE HISTORY LESSON, WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH AMD?? Keep your pants on, you impatient fuck. I'll tell you. AMD has recently released their new line of processors: The Athlon XP series. Something intrigued me. At first. The clock speeds were listed as "1800+, 1700+, 1600+..." and on down the road. My initial intrigue, however, bumped into my history lesson, causing me to think "uh oh". Further investigation of their site led me to find exactly what I was afraid of. Their lovely benchmarks all listed the processor as "Athlon XP 1800+*". What was the star for? Down the page, I found the star. "QuantiSpeed architecture operates at 1.533 GHz." They're pulling the Cyrix shit! Why? Just because they can't compete with Intel's 2GHz? Yeah, probably....  Me droogies: Noellevious.... she's made me so proud. Two positions available. Come and get one in the yarbles.... if you have any yarbles. | ||||
| QuickStop I won the last OA.com Sig contest & all I got was this cheesey status... Who is driving? Oh my God! Bear is Driving! How can that be?!? G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Kickflip b/s Tailslide Strike Team | posted on 10-16-2001 @ 5:50 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | That's pretty pathetic that a company would do that. Doesn't affect me though, so, may i be the first to say....CARE? ;) I am Chuck's wasted time. My grandmother always said, "Why buy the cow, when you can get the sex for free." | ||||
| Tubesteak | posted on 10-16-2001 @ 6:04 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Oct. 01 | Doesnt matter what you call it the fact is that they make a better chip that is simple to overclock, which = more gooder then intel | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 10-16-2001 @ 8:01 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Well, QuickStop, remember... if it doesn't affect you, then you don't buy their stuff, therefore it already affects them.... And who knows if this chip can be overclocked - of course the manufacturer would not recommend nor support overclocking, so we'll have to wait until silly people buy them. Gotta figure that anything optimized for XP has to be evil. Me droogies: Noellevious.... she's made me so proud. Two positions available. Come and get one in the yarbles.... if you have any yarbles. | ||||
| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 10-16-2001 @ 8:13 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Processors are still better than Intel and a hell of a lot cheaper.  Resident Board Socialist Email me here or IM me at stickysituation2 or pinkorag Webmaster of the Undergound Unofficial I Hate WhackBagKid Message Board I currently have brought no one into the International | ||||
| Sephiroth | posted on 10-16-2001 @ 8:20 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | What the motherfuck are you talking about !?!
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| hornygoatweed I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed | posted on 10-17-2001 @ 1:29 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | I heard AMD's reasoning for doing this - they are trying to tell the consumer that Mhz numbers mean jack-shit when it comes to efficiency in a CPU. They are basically saying Intel tells people that a 2 Ghz chip is better than AMD's 1.33 Ghz simply because it is faster in clock speed. That may or may not be true, but AMD insists that most of their chips are indeed more efficient than Intel chips, but Intel always gets the consumer "nod" because people see higher or faster numbers, and they instantly think "better".  Cementbag has enrolled in Goatweed University, but I've got one open seat left! Email me here or AIM me at Organic999 to apply!! | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 10-17-2001 @ 9:03 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Yep, that's what they're doing - but it's funny that the WAY they have to do it is to pad the numbers anyway. They can't just say "Our 1.533GHz out-performs their 1.8" because they KNOW people will just look at numbers... so they have to call their 1.533 an "1800+". Also - it's a widely known fact that early P4's, up to 1.8GHz, didn't even out-perform the highest PIII's. Intel just wanted to get the big clock speeds onto the market, and only now with the bigger chips are they putting up the real performance numbers - note that AMD didn't try to compare to the 2GHz. Edit - I forgot... Intel also uses a 400MHz bus and 800MHz RAM as opposed to AMD's 266MHz bus... it does make a difference. Me droogies: Noellevious.... she's made me so proud. Two positions available. Come and get one in the yarbles.... if you have any yarbles. This message was edited by FollowThisLogic on 10-17-01 @ 9:43 AM | ||||
| George Peterson
| posted on 10-17-2001 @ 7:45 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | There's a little company out there that practically invented the personal computer industry that has been doing a similar thing for years. Remember Apple? I do (I'm using my old PowerMac 7600 right now). Apple has said for years, and has proven by using Intel's own tests, that the Motorola 750 (G3) and 7400 (G4) are approximately Twice as fast as a comparable PII or PIII/P4, respectively, at double the clock speed. Meaning... G4 @ 867Mhz ---> PIII/P4 @ 1.67Ghz (1666Mhz) G3 @ 1Ghz (fastest made by IBM) ---> PII @ 2Ghz (if Intel ever made one) AMD is pretty much doing the same thing, though Mr. Jobs and the crew in Cupertino have shown that consumers really don't give a shit about tests results, thay want raw numbers and bigger is always more gooder in Joe Bagadonuts' eyes.  lights down, you up and die.
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| DasDoomper | posted on 10-18-2001 @ 1:37 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Benchmarks mean dick. They are usually customized by the manufacturer to make their chips look better than whatever competitor they are up against. In a few years, we'll have clockless processors, and Mhz won't be an issue. It's Time for Clockless Chips Going Clockless DasDoomper  | ||||
| FoundryMusicHummercash | posted on 10-20-2001 @ 2:44 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 00 | k people... I fully understand where AMD is coming from. Last July I attended MacWorld Expo. I sat in on the keynote as well as some of the developer courses. At the keynote, Apple Senior VP of Hardware Jon Rubinstein gave a wonderful speech about the 'Megahertz Myth'. You can watch the entire thing right HERE. Hope that helps... GO DOWNLOAD MY WTC TRIBUTE MOVIE!!! You can also download my SCREENSAVER. | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 10-23-2001 @ 5:38 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | quote: I don't have Apple Quicktime, do they have that video in Windows Media Player?  Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild
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| FoundryMusicHummercash | posted on 10-24-2001 @ 2:14 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 00 | quote: duz microsoft have quicktime movies on their website? i think NOT. just download quicktime, the megahertz movie is worth it. GO DOWNLOAD MY WTC TRIBUTE MOVIE!!! You can also download my SCREENSAVER. | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 10-24-2001 @ 12:00 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | quote: Hummer, apparently my sarcasm was lost on you. I'll get over it. Thank you for the link...I already have Quicktime. While I have you here I'd like to ask you to put the target="_new" in your HTML link code from now on. Thanks In Advance. Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild
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| FoundryMusicHummercash | posted on 10-24-2001 @ 12:10 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 00 | i put that in when i remember.... y not just right click, open in new window? GO DOWNLOAD MY WTC TRIBUTE MOVIE!!! You can also download my SCREENSAVER. | ||||
| George Peterson
| posted on 10-26-2001 @ 11:02 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | I'm sensing some hostility here...
FoundryMusicHummercash, I feel your pain. | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 10-26-2001 @ 1:31 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | quote: I dunno, you putting in the code 1 time, so everyone else does'nt have to do the right click > open in new window. Just a courtesy, I guess. quote: Yea, well I'd be hostile too, if I owned the BetaMax of Computers, LOL I mean sure they are a better machine, but does anyone in the real world care, other than Computer Graphic Artists? Or maybe gamers?:);):) Now, if your responses to my little jokes get too technical, I will have to send in my 14 year old adolescentjerkoff friend to take care of things. Kinda like a tagteam match. However, be forwarned, if a tag team match ensues, Fez will probably move this to the Wrestling Forum. Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild
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| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 10-26-2001 @ 5:00 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: Yeah rm -rf /bin/hummercash lol.  Resident Board Socialist IM me at stickysituation2 | ||||
The sky is blue | posted on 10-26-2001 @ 7:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: I was thinking the Movie Forum joke Forum, but whatever.  Fez® blah blah blah ©2001 blah blah blah. Fez™ blah blah Email me at [email protected] | ||||
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