The Unofficial Opie & Anthony Message Board - WWE Smackdown: Shut Your Mouth!
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PatCooper
posted on 05-25-2002 @ 9:22 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01
Yes there will be yet another Smackdown game for the PS2. Here's a preview. And yes RVD and Booker T are included this time around.
quote: E3 2002: WWE SmackDown Hands-On
We've played the new WWE game on PS2. Or is it the first WWE game?
May 23, 2002 - While WWE SmackDown Shut Your Mouth isn't anywhere near completion, it's still worth noting that the E3 demo on display should have "SmackDown" in very big letters and "Shut Your Mouth" in small ones. In other words, this is presently what you call an incremental improvement -- while there are certainly new wrestlers and new features in the game, as our first preview indicated in some detail, you are still not going to mistake this for anything other than a SmackDown game. It's a SmackDown game with Rob Van Dam in it, and a pretty neat rendition of RVD at that, but it's still SmackDown.
As I say, though, RVD is pretty cool. He's got a great set of animations for kick combos and pointless flippy-floppy stuff, including a snap headscissors and a funky victory roll into sunset flip combination. His top-rope maneuvers are very good as well, with a legdrop, twisting senton, Five Star Frog Splash, and several others. It's as faithful a replication of his moveset as Hulk Hogan's arsenal is completely nonsensical. If someone can send me legitimate proof of Hogan performing a leapfrog at any time in his career, I'd love to see it. Or, well, no, I wouldn't, but the point stands. The designers have to do something with all those move slots, though.
Some of the animations for signature maneuvers are still a little clumsy, though. Booker T, one of the other new wrestlers in the demo (RVD, Hogan, Stacy Keibler are the rest), has an offense that's very tricky to make credible in real life, and the Yuke's animators are apparently having a hard time making his opponents sell his kicks properly. Strike maneuvers like the axe kick and sidekick don't look very good when matched to the present sell animations, although Booker has some grapples into strikes that still look alright.
There seem to be more moves that link into other moves in Shut Your Mouth now, ones that set up subsequent grapple maneuvers. It looks like certain attacks leave a window where you're still partially grappled, leaving an opening to perform another move. It's more or less like moves that result in grogginess, although it takes potential errors in positioning out of the equation.
Object interaction has been beefed up in a couple of ways. There's better collision detection for international object shots, and new grapple maneuvers with objects as well. For example, grappling with a chair does a DDT on a chair, or a better-placed chairshot with a new camera angle. Another good addition is one-shot table prep -- grapple while holding a table and you'll lay your opponent on top of it in one smooth motion. Ladder grapples are presently limited to slams on the ladder, although the possibilities for that and many other object maneuvers are considerable. The throat-shot the Undertaker performs in the trailer movie is an obvious one, but many others come to mind: Rolling Thunder, the Van Daminator, the old Pillmanizer maneuver, a ladder sandwich whack, and so on.
In general, foreign object behavior is more versatile and simple. Setting up a table in the corner for an Irish whip or something like Tazz's table suplexes is easy to do. Multiple characters can ascend the ladder, and it's apparently possible to pull off nonsense like the Walls of Jericho atop the ladder if you can manage such an improbable setup. You can also interact with the rails, running along them or jumping off to perform aerial maneuvers (like the Hardy Boyz rail-run).
Outside the rails, the crowd in the ringside sections is now finally 3D. The models aren't all that detailed, but it's a definite improvement on the old flat bitmap people. That's the most obvious graphical upgrade, although the character models do look, as we say, incrementally improved. Some facial expressions and features are distinctly better, though -- RVD in particular has a well-defined face. The animation is a blend of old and new, with some that are very recognizable (the old dizziness animation is definitely held over) and some others that are new. The selection of reversal animations has improved, including a very funny Hogan reversal. Instead of just blocking a punch, he takes it, no-sells, and does the old Hulk-up/"Ah-ah-ah!" finger-pointing routine.
Which is just fine, providing you like Hulk Hogan. We'll refrain from editorializing in this instance (or rather this paragraph, since we did plenty of it a little ways above). We also don't have a lot to say at this point regarding the game's ancillary modes, since the demo is limited to single and tag matches, with TLC thrown in for the fun of it. We'll certainly follow this game plenty more in the future, though, since we know all you kids dig it so much. Look forward to it, and check our preview if you haven't yet.
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Anger problem? What anger problem?
I hate the fucking mud! USA
posted on 05-25-2002 @ 9:32 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01
I checked out some of the screenshots on this game. For it being in it's early stages, the graphics look pretty damn good. Much better than the last Smackdown. Let's just hope they fix the moves and controls. Graphics can only take a game so far.
Don't make me angry.
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
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posted on 05-25-2002 @ 9:40 PM
Psychopath Registered: Jan. 02
I call shenanigans... the people who make Smackdown (THQ) also make Raw for the xbox. Why is it then that we xbox owners get the shitty wrestling game... It's not fair.
Waaaaawaaaaa waaaaa waaaaaa
In the end it doesn't even matter May Teh Funny Be With You
PatCooper
posted on 05-25-2002 @ 9:52 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01
quote: Why is it then that we xbox owners get the shitty wrestling game... It's not fair.
You just dont get shitty wrestling games. You get shitty games period!!! hahaha sucks to be an X-Box owner.
Disturbed G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S.
Pac Man Power Pill Gunner
posted on 05-25-2002 @ 9:55 PM
Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00
quote: the graphics look pretty damn good. Much better than the last Smackdown
You could probably find a posting a year ago on WWF SmackDown! Just Bring It where someone said those exact words and look how that game turned out.
Flock of Moosen OA.com's Bodyguard
Anger problem? What anger problem?
I hate the fucking mud! USA
posted on 05-25-2002 @ 10:34 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01
quote: You could probably find a posting a year ago on WWF SmackDown! Just Bring It where someone said those exact words and look how that game turned out.
Very good point Disturbed. I probably said it myself.
As for an new game for X-Box, it was announced that WWE Raw 2 will be coming out. They say is will be greatly improved, but only time will tell on that.
Don't make me angry.
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
FoundryMusicDoug
posted on 05-25-2002 @ 10:45 PM
Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00
I think everybody agrees with me when I say the worst part of Smackdown that they must improve upon is the announcing. Granted its funny to hear taz say: "Look at... TAZZ... performing the... TAZZMISSION... to win in a... T..L..C..match. But it just got annoying. And another thing is the reversals. God damn did that part suck. In a previous post I posted that me and a friend had like ten in a row. Fix that and announcing and I think the game will be good.
"Now the seasons over, and I feel it gettin' cold. I wish I could take you to some sandy beach road, we'ed never grow old. Ah but baby you know thats just jive, but tonight's bustin' open and.... I'm alive!"~Bruce Springsteen (Thunder Road Est. 1973) JB, KG, and Me. THE D. 'Cause here me JB and KG come naked,Out of the side hatch
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posted on 05-28-2002 @ 6:35 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01
No one has mentioned the nWo. I guess THQ thought they would poison their game too... The way they described RVD, looks like he's the main event on this game! I hope they can squeeze Eddie Guerrero into it. I never got 3 cause I was waiting for 4. The way you can use the weapons sounds awsome, I hate how when you hit a guy with a weapon he gets up real quick or takes like 10 shots before going down. So I hope they took that into mind, I hope you all had fun with 3 cause I knew I wouldn't have to wait too long for 4...:-P
Shit Can Happen
2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
:)
1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year
:-D
2. Hate the Braves with a passion
:mad:
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
:-P
4. Mets win World Series!!!
:-D :)
4B. Roger Clemens finally steps into the batters box at Shea.
:eek:
5. Root for and support Mike Piazza...
regardless of his sexual preference