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| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 06-11-2001 @ 10:01 AM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00  | This isn't really a gaming problem, more of a basic computer problem. My company just recently went onto a citrix server, and my computer has lost its "personality". I no longer have a desktop picture, nor a screen saver. Does anyone know of a way to crack this problem?? If I copy a picture to my desktop as my wallpaper, as soon as I shut down at the end of the night it is gone, and I have to go through the problem of doing it again the next day, also I can't open any .jpg files either. Please someone out there, help!!! | ||||
| Snoteater | posted on 06-11-2001 @ 10:33 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01 | It's a network problem. It sounds like all of your "non-work related" files are being put onto the Citrix server and are then being dumped sometime during the night. If you can find a way to add it to you desktop machine and not the server, it should stay. Either that, or Your company just went a terminal enviroment and there is nothing you can do. Growing tired of all the speculation... | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 06-11-2001 @ 3:42 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | Snot, the IT guys told me that there is a way to do it, that is the only reason I am bothering...I assume that with everything on the server that is my problem. Thanks for your help! | ||||
| George Peterson | posted on 06-11-2001 @ 6:01 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | Yeah, the IT guys tell you it can be done, but remember, they're the ones working the machines. Maybe they can do it for you; write it into your network preferences. I doubt it. I've been working on cracking Novell NetWare for years. In school suspentions, detentions; unfazed. I hate network restrictions. I hate computer restrictions in general. Maybe I can conjure up something for Citrix. Unless you like your job. Anyone else like Tazo Om tea? My head hurts. I'm a full-time pistol-packin' skull-crackin' Windows-dissin' baby-kissin' Mac user.  Official Byram Hills High School Canceller of Appointments "Can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding" - T.M.B.G. | ||||
| Spork | posted on 06-11-2001 @ 6:11 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | skitchr4u - Are you running your whole desktop through Citrix, or are you just running published applications? Now I know that your IT guys have told you that you should be able to save the changes to your desktop, but it SOUNDS like they might have locked you down with a mandatory roaming profile or something along those lines. Let me ask you this, how do you get out of your desktop, do you choose "logoff"? That would be your best bet to make sure that you save your features IF YOU CAN. You can also ask your IT guys to delete your current profile so that your system will recreate on its own and might get rid of any corruption if that's the problem. Give that a whirl and give them a little bit of a grilling and see if they're doing anything in terms of locking you down.  Adopted by Rone on 6/6/01 | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 06-12-2001 @ 10:56 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | Spork, I log into citrix when my computer boots in the morning. The entire damn system is run through it...When i log out at night, I select logoff, and it saves any unsaved data to the disk (or so it says)...my thing is that I have the o&a ugly people screen saver that I want back up, and the poster should be my wallpaper...know what I mean? | ||||
| Spork | posted on 06-12-2001 @ 12:05 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Okay, well if you're using a complete Citrix environment and you basically have a thin client and aren't simply running a published application (you cannot save the background on a published application - that's a "feature") AND you IT guys say you SHOULD be able to save your desktop then you have a corrupt profile and it needs to be deleted. Ask your IT guys if they can delete your profile so you can recreate it. If you get a more "green" desktop jocky have them do the following steps (obtained from Thinplanet.com a good place for Citrix/Terminal Server issues in general):quote:  Adopted by Rone on 6/6/01 | ||||
| Kwyjibo | posted on 06-12-2001 @ 7:40 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | Your desktop is being pushed out to you, not generated by your machine. Basically you are using a glorified TV. Most companies do this to elimate personal use of the machine. The server will only push out the standard config. The IT guys are the ones that can help you get around this. Kwyjibo  Proud graduate of the Brokenjaw school for newbies Thanks to Sephiroth for the sigpic | ||||
| Spork | posted on 06-13-2001 @ 1:16 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | skitchr4u - Any luck with the suggestions? It's never good not having the wallpaper you desire! Adopted by Rone on 6/6/01 | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 06-13-2001 @ 11:36 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | 1) Citrix blows. 2) Citrix REALLY blows. 3) Citrix REALLY REALLY blows. A lot. 4) A WinTerm is just a dumb terminal. Your Citrix session runs on the Citrix server as opposed to being on your own PC. That's cause you don't have a PC. You have, as Kwyjibo said, a glorified TV. At my company, we're actually trying to get RID of our Citrix server because it fucking sucks. The boys who made that server probably put a check in to see if the wallpaper has been changed, and if so, changes it back. Not very hard to do, because the wallpaper and screen saver are nothing more than registry keys that point the wallpaper and SS to certain files. And it's easy enough for some sort of script to set them right back to nothing. Shit, your support guys probably don't even KNOW that it's there and does that to you.  Me droogies: Syndra is feeling a bit shagged and fagged and fashed. One position available... come and get one in the yarbles.... if you have any yarbles. | ||||
I Need An Old Priest And A Young Priest | posted on 06-13-2001 @ 11:55 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | skitchr4u, how about we keep this solution simple. Don't shut down at night. Log off, and turn your monitor off. That is what I do everyday.  Adopted Newbie Within the Protected Big Arms: Jesus H Christ Officially Part of JWO: skitchr4u & JasonFromRiverEdge | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 8:37 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | Actually, the suggestions almost worked, til the IT guys came by to see how I was getting along at cracking their shit. They didn't like the idea of me deleting my file and rebuilding it, so I can't do that now. I am thinking it might just be the best thing to just add my wallpaper new each morning when I get here, besides that way I check out the new stuff on foundry and new.com... Oh Joey, it disappears when I log off, so no luck with that. And if I don't log off, they do it for me remotely at 11pm for days end backup. Thanks for the help guys! AIM: SkiT4you | ||||
| Spork | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 9:09 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Your IT guys should be able to change that for you - you're in a Catch-22 you can't change it because you're USING it. You have to log out. Then your IT guys have to delete the profile (usually in c:\winnt\profiles, or often in the case of Citrix for your administrators it will be m:\winnt\profiles or wherever they remapped C: during the Citrix installation). This should be something that they can and should do for you, it's a simple request - I don't know how big your company is or your IT staff or if you have to put a trouble ticket in or something, but that's what you want, that's what you need. Depending on what service pack they have, and depending on what OS they're running Citrix on top of, there are definitely known issues with user profile corruption and several versions of Citrix out there. It honestly sounds to me like your profile is corrupt. If that is the case it really does need to be deleted and recreated (it will automatically be recreated when you first log on - it will take the default profile and then build on top of it for you). This can effect more than just your wallpaper (it can also actually cause malfunctioning of Microsoft applications, especially Office). If all THAT doesn't work you could always make a little batch file that will import some settings into the registry, so that you could log in, double click a file, and you should have your background, but that's pretty cumbersome. Make your IT guys do their job :) Adopted by Rone on 6/6/01 | ||||
| smex182 | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:45 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | A user Profile is the look and feel of the user's desktop environment; it’s a combination of folders, data, shortcuts, application settings and personal data. For example you can configure your computer with you favorite O&A wallpaper or screen saver. Now these setting are independent of other user settings. When you log onto your computer for the first time a new profile is created for a default user profile. This type of profile is known as a local profile and is stored on the computer you just logged onto. But since you are essentially logging into Citrix a Sever Based computing solution you are logging onto the Citrix Server. These type of profiles are called roaming profiles. A roaming profile is stored on a network server in the case of citrix so that the profile is accessible regardless of which computer a user logs on. So if your IT guys know what they are doing they stored the profile in the login Script to point to the profile stored on the network. Also if they are doing their job they made the Profile read only preventing you from making any permanent changes to your desktop which seems to be your case. Local or roaming profiles are protected from permanent change by renaming NTUSER.dat to NTUSER.MAN by renaming the file you have effectively made the profile read only meaning the session you are logging onto does not save any changes made to the profile when the user logs off. NTUSER.Dat is found in the root of a profile and is hidden by default. I would do a search for NTUSER.MAN when you find it rename it NTUSER.DAT and this should resolve your problem then what you can do is make what ever changes you want to make after renaming the file and log off to save the changes. When you log back on you should see your changes. If that is the case then I would recommend renaming you profile back to NTUSER.MAN so as to not bring attention to yourself and only temporarily rename when you want to make a permanent change. If they revoked your rights to prevent the renaming of this file then you Shit of Luck and the Batch file will probably be the best way to go, because you won't be able to rename the NTUSER file and it will tell you access is denied. I know this probably has a lot of info and a shit load of grammar and spelling errors so I apologize in advance I hope it helps if not let us know. Since 8/99 Proud To Be Spreading O&A Like The Virus It Is, And No Vaccine In Sight This message was edited by smex182 on 6-14-01 @ 11:53 AM | ||||
| Spork | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 2:39 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Smex, Correctamundo, I'm just thinking that skitchr4u's LAN folks said that he should be able to change his desktop. That leads me to believe that they're not using mandatory profiles - otherwise, unless they were being dicks, they would say something like "Yeah, well you can't change your desktop anymore." We obviously can't really do too much to help other than let you know what you should tell your IT people. They need to do a bunch of stuff while you are logged out. If they do have a roaming profile set up for you (rather than the one that's just native on the Citrix box) then when you are logged off they need to delete the one on the network and any other instances of the thing. If you were my user I'd do it for you because it's an easy job - I love those ones! Adopted by Rone on 6/6/01 | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 3:13 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | SMEX and Spork, thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it. Here is what happened...I went and searched for NTUSER.MAN and .DAT to no avail. The IT guys have told me that I "should be able to figure it out, you know how to use your machine" so that is what started me on my whole crusade. I also at one time had the administrative passwords which would have helped me greatly in this process, but they have been changed. I spoke with them today, and they told me that they would not re-create my profile in order to add a wallpaper for me. Smex was right when he said I can log on anywhere and always get my profile up, as I have citrix on my laptop as well, and can use the server from home or anywhere else I may take it. So I guess I am SOL at this point, but wanted to thank you guys for helping out, it shows a lot about the board...yeah we tool on each other a lot, but when we have a problem, the board is always quick to help out when they can! AIM: SkiT4you | ||||
| smex182 | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 4:05 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | OK OK so I'm anal. Here try this. Manually Administering a User Profile through the Registry As discussed earlier, the NTuser.dat file is were your settings are stored but all of this does is record all of the registry settings located in HKEY_CURRENT_USER. To manually customize a User Profile: 1. Locate the profile to be modified.I know you tried locating it but see if this helps you If the profile is a server-based profile, locate the \\server\share\username and determine the extension on the NTuser.xxx file. If the profile is a local profile, locate the %system-root%\Profiles\username directory, and determine the extension on the NTuser.xxx file. If you need to edit the Default User Profile, locate the %system-root%\Profiles\Default User directory, and determine the extension on the NTuser.xxx file. If you need to edit the Network Default User Profile, locate the Default User folder in the NETLOGON share of the domain controllers that are doing user authentication, and determine the extension on the NTuser.xxx file. If there is more than one domain controller and direc-tory replication is ensuring that the “Default User†profile is the same on all domain controllers, open only the profile on the domain control-ler which is the export server. 2. Start Regedt32.exe by selecting Start --> run --> typing regedit32.exe, and select the HKEY_USERS on Local Machine window. Highlight the root key of HKEY_USERS. 3. From the Registry menu, select Load Hive. 4. Browse for the directory identified in Step 1, and select the NTuser.xxx file located in that directory. 5. A dialog will prompt you to enter a Key Name. You can use any value, but you must remember this value so that you can select it during the unload process. For this reason, we recommend that you use the user name. 6. Click Enter. This adds the profile registry hive as a subkey to HKEY_USERS 7. Edit the existing values as necessary in this case it would be the Wallpaper and type the full path name of the picture you want to use. 8. After completing the changes, highlight the root of the user’s profile regis-try key, and from the Registry menu, select Unload Hive. This saves the changes to the user’s profile. (When you first selected Load Hive, the key was mapped to the file selected in the Open dialog. A Save As option is therefore unnecessary.) Damn I'm sorry if I confused you I know this is very techie and I don't know what your environment is like or your tech level but I had to try :) hope it helps. Since 8/99 Proud To Be Spreading O&A Like The Virus It Is, And No Vaccine In Sight | ||||
| Hummercash
| posted on 06-17-2001 @ 7:03 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 00 | Microsoft SUX... spent about 3 hours on the phone w/ their $255 tech support trying to solve our terminal server problems... Every 10 minutes or so, they would keep plugging win2k and the whole .net shit. in the end, they couldn't solve our problem so we did not get charged (but i have forever lost the 3 hours of my life spent listening to .net plugs) MacOS X 0wn4g35 j00!!! ;) | ||||
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