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| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 09-25-2001 @ 10:18 PM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01  | I'm just really bored, so I thought I'd post this. PWI magazine just announced their annual Top 500 list of professional wrestlers. I don't know what criteria they use to make up this list but some of the picks just seem very random, like they were shooting darts at a dartboard instead of weighing the different wrestlers' strengths and weaknesses against each other. Also, as a fan of all different styles of wrestling, I can definitely say that the editors of PWI are quite ignorant when it comes to puroresu and lucha libre. But it is an American magazine, so I guess that's to be expected... Anyway, here we go: 1. Kurt Angle 2. Steve Austin 3. Chris Benoit 4. Keiji Muto 5. Booker T. 6. Triple H 7. Scott Steiner 8. Mitsuharu Misawa 9. Chris Jericho 10. Rhyno 11. The Undertaker 12. Genichiro Tenryu 13. Lance Storm 14. The Rock 15. El Hijo Del Santo 16. Kane 17. Jeff Hardy 18. Toshiaki Kawada 19. Diamond Dallas Page 20. Edge 21. Dr. Wagner Jr. 22. Matt Hardy 23. Minoru Tanaka 24. Jeff Jarrett 25. Jushin Thunder Liger 26. Hector Garza 27. Yoshihiro Tajiri 28. Mike Awesome 29. Christian 30. Buh-Buh Ray Dudley 31. Hurricane Helms 32. Albert 33. Nicho El Millonario (Psichosis) 34. Kazuyuki Fujita 35. Steve Corino 36. D-Von Dudley 37. Test 38. Billy Kidman 39. Jun Akiyama 40. Hugh Morrus 41. Kensuke Sasaki 42. Chavo Guerrero Jr. 43. Sean O`Haire 44. Tokyo Magnum 45. Bradshaw 46. Silver King 47. Shinya Hashimoto 48. Vader 49. Jerry Lynn 50. Eddie Guerrero 51. Hardcore Holly 52. Yuji Nagata 53. Raven 54. Juventud Guerrera 55. Taiyo Kea 56. Faarooq 57. Sabu 58. Masato Tanaka 59. Rob Van Dam 60. Chuck Palumbo 61. William Regal 62. Spike Dudley 63. Masa Chono 64. Vilanno III 65. Christopher Daniels 66. Perry Saturn 67. X-Pac 68. Jinsei Shinzaki 69. Electro Shock 70. Steve Blackman 71. Scott Norton 72. The Big Show 73. Shima Nobunaga 74. Crash Holly 75. Super Delphin 76. Tiger Mask IV 77. Satanico 78. Tommy Dreamer 79. Justin Credible 80. Manabu Nakanishi 81. Bull Buchanan 82. Shocker 83. Steve Williams 84. Hiroyoshi Tenzan 85. Satoshi Kojima 86. Grandmaster Sexay 87. Brock Lesnar 88. Scotty Too Hotty 89. Atlantis 90. The Goodfather 91. Crowbar 92. Shannon Moore 93. Shinjiro Otani 94. Super Crazy 95. Octagon 96. Chris Candido 97. Rikishi 98. Scott Hall 99. Al Snow 100. Tatsuhito Takaiwa 101. Taka Michinuko 102. Reckless Youth 103. Sho Funaki 104. La Parka 105. Scoot Andrews 106. Haku 107. The Sandman 108. Naoya Ogawa 109. Negro Casas 110. Rick Steiner 111. Dean Malenko 112. C.W. Anderson 113. Blue Panther 114. Kid Kash 115. Hiroshi Hase 116. Mike Rotunda 117. Essa Rios 118. Danny Doring 119. Mark Jindrak 120. Ricky Marvin 121. Charlie Haas 122. Akira Taue 123. Shawn Stasiak 124. Joey Matthews 125. Billy Gunn 126. Dick Togo 127. Val Venis 128. Christian York 129. Great Sasuke 130. Russ Haas 131. K-Kwik 132. Mike Quackenbush 133. Disqo 134. Black Warrior 135. Johnny Smith 136. Roadkill 137. Steven Richards 138. Minoru Fujita 139. Mike Barton 140. Tazz 141. Guido Maritato 142. Villano IV 143. 2 Cold Scorpio 144. Steven Bradley 145. D`Lo Brown 146. Gedo 147. Nova 148. Chris Kanyon 149. Takehiro Murahama 150. Buff Bagwell 151. Jado 152. Mike Rapada 153. Shelton Benjamin 154. Ultimo Guerrero 155. Villano V 156. Balls Mahoney 157. Shark Boy 158. Gran Hamada 159. Mike Modest 160. Dragon Kid 161. The Blue Boy 162. Kendo Ka Shin 163. El Felino 164. Chad Collyer 165. Jerry Lawler 166. Rey Bucanero 167. Mark Henry 168. Evan Karagias 169. Gran Naniwa 170. Low-Ki 171. Tarzan Boy 172. Julio Dinero 173. New Jack 174. Simon Diamond 175. The Maestro 176. Donvan Morgan 177. Mr. Niebla 178. Joey Abs 179. Lash LeRoux 180. Gillberg 181. Akira Nogami 182. Nick Dinsmore 183. David Flair 184. Flash 185. Brian Adams 186. Fuerza Guerrera 187. Tatsumi Fujinami 188. Bryan Clarke 189. Rico Constantino 190. Mikey Whipwreck 191. Lance Cade 192. El Dandy 193. Dusty Rhodes 194. Ekmo 195. Air Paris 196. Tony Kozina 197. Kimo 198. Rey Misterio Jr. 199. A.J. Styles 200. Adam Pearce 201. Jayson Reign 202. Gary Steele 203. Osamu Nishimura 204. El Samurai 205. Michelle Starr 206. The American Dragon 207. Nuevo Gran Apolo 208. Spanky 209. Naomichi Marufiji 210. Jet Jaguar 211. Johnny Moss 212. Jamie Knoble 213. Takao Omori 214. Trailer Park Trash 215. Damien 666 216. Yoshinari Ogawa 217. Randy Orton 218. Savio Vega 219. Rodrageous 220. Masa Fuchi 221. Tsubasa 222. Emilo Charles Jr. 223. Don Montoya 224. Jason Lee 225. Jim Steele 226. Takuma Sano 227. Ricky Banderas 228. Boyce LeGrande 229. Vic Capri 230. Kronus 231. Samu 232. Halloween 233. Andy Anderson 234. Billy Fives 235. Pete Gas 236. Tom Brandi 237. Jack Dupp 238. Romeo Bliss 239. Shinya Makabe 240. Dr. Cerebro 241. The Messiah 242. Silky Boom Boom 243. Dennis Gregory 244. Beau James 245. Tony Jones 246. Supreme 247. Glen Osbourne 248. Masai Irinara 249. K.C. Thunder 250. Otto Schwanz 251. Vincenzo Massaro 252. Damien Steele 253. Eric Angle 254. Jon Ryan 255. Mike Shane 256. Todd Shane 257. Leviathan 258. Onyx 259. Koji Kanemoto 260. Frank Parker 261. Horace Hogan 262. Eddie Golden 263. J.R. Ryder 264. Major DeBeers 265. King Kong Bundy 266. Mike Sullivan 267. Roger Anderson 268. Vance Nevada 269. Cham Pain 270. Vic Grimes 271. Race Steele 272. Jason Jett 273. Andre Baker 274. Kis Kaos 275. Jag 276. Adm Firestorm 277. Col. Boomer Payne 278. David Young 279. Inferno 280. Jeremy Lopez 281. The Prototype 282. Jason Rumble 283. Corporal Punishment 284. Rob Conway 285. Lex Lovett 286. Matt Stryker 287. Robert Thompson 288. John Rambo 289. Blade Boudreaux 290. Shorty Smalls 291. Mikey Henderson 292. Lenny Lane 293. Trent Acid 294. Pogo The Clown 295. Hotstuff Hernandez 296. Shane Ballard 297. Lodi 298. Shannon Ballard 299. Chris Nelson 300. Steve Sharp 301. J.C. Dazz 302. Jon Heidenreich 303. Kevin Northcutt 304. Chilly Willy 305. Vito DeNucci 306. Steve Boz 307. Jimmy Rave 308. Brandon K. 309. John Phoenix 310. Scottie Wren 311. L.A. Smooth 312. Cody Hawk 313. Naphtali 314. Samoa Joe 315. Prince Nana 316. Scott Bishop 317. Caprice Coleman 318. Robbie Royce 319. Frankie Kazarian 320. Jason Justice 321. Preston Quinn 322. Qenaan Creed 323. The Damaja 324. Matt Murphy 325. J.J. Johnston 326. Quinn Magnum 327. Iceman 328. Rob McBride 329. Rick Deezel 330. Keiji Sakota 331. Johnny Kashmere 332. Biggie Biggs 333. T. Rantula 334. Mr. Ooh La La 335. Drake Dawson 336. Dean Champion 337. Dusty Wolfe 338. Curtis Thomson 339. Ricky Harrison 340. Ty Street 341. Rico Casanova 342. Lord Zoltan 343. Skull Ganz 344. Rick Fuller 345. Ace Darling 346. Lazz 347. Bart Sawyer 348. Nathan Jones 349. Rory Fox 350. Moondog Molsonn 351. Dr. Luther 352. Boom Boom Comini 353. Dylan Night 354. Stone Mountain 355. Scott D`Amore 356. Hardkore Kidd 357. Jacey North 358. Rapid Fire Maldonado 359. Vinnie Capelli 360. Seven 361. 2-Dope 362. Barry Horowitz 363. Bull Schmitt 364. Ronnie Vegas 365. Moondog Wenzel 366. Afa Jr. 367. Mentallo 368. Sydeswype 369. Bad Boy Basil 370. Terry Allen 371. Cheetah Master 372. Marc Ash 373. Bruiser Bennett 374. The Bruiser 375. Chris Michaels 376. Vince Goodnite 377. Smelly 378. Maxx Justice 379. Juda Young 380. Piranah 381. Trooper Gilmore 382. T.J. Powers 383. John Balsamo 384. Dino Divine 385. Horseshu 386. Kid U.S.A. 387. Vince Kaplack 388. Shirley Doe 389. Rich Myers 390. Johnny Spade 391. Bobo Brazil Jr. 392. Crusher Hansen 393. Juggernaut 394. Darren Dalton 395. The Bouncer 396. J-Rocc 397. Creeping Death 398. Monsta Mack 399. Beau Douglas 400. Mafia 401. Eric Priest 402. Jardi Frantz 403. Robbie Rage 404. Guillotine LeGrande 405. Brian Anthony 406. Adam Booker 407. Paul Vault 408. Miyaki Frantz 409. Dapper Dan 410. Steve Southern 411. Masked Maniac 412. Scab 413. Dave Johnson 414. Paul Diamond 415. Zak Mason 416. Kevin Knight 417. Johnny Malibu 418. Poison 419. Major Havoc 420. Bobby Rogers 421. J.T. Lightning 422. David Lee Gilbert 423. Badd Brad 424. Ralph Mosca 425. The Persian Prince 426. Chris Krueger 427. Al Savage 428. L.A. Wild One 429. Jeff Roth 430. Danny Rose 431. Sebastian Kane 432. Mozart Fontaine 433. Johnny Graham 434. Earl The Pearl 435. Super Destroyer 2000 436. Guy Williams 437. Boogie Woogie Brown 438. Jeff Hammerick 439. Reverend Slim 440. Bob Evans 441. Ronnie Zukko 442. Shawn Christopher 443. Brian Danzig 444. Seijin Akki 445. Red 446. Joey Corman 447. Jake Damien 448. Alex Arion 449. Don Basher 450. Juan Xavier 451. Dave Greco 452. Chic White 453. Metal Maniac 454. Nova Cain 455. The California Kid 456. Joel Maximo 457. Indiana Kidd Jr. 458. B.J. Whitmer 459. Bob Keller 460. Jose Maximo 461. Jimmy Snuka Sr. 462. Brody Hawk 463. Austin James 464. Homeless Jimmy 465. Brian Bedlam 466. Mark Mest 467. Flex Fenom 468. Tommy Idol 469. Dave Sherman 470. Jon Douglas 471. Adam Jacobs 472. Rick Noble 473. Rod Bell 474. Jimmie Lee 475. Kyle Storm 476. Benny Stoltzfus 477. Gino Martino 478. Majik 479. Chris Charger 480. Terry Knight 481. Brandon Walker 482. C.B. Cane 483. The Japanese Pool Boy 484. Joe Brock 485. Hadrian 486. Ash Parker 487. Bulldozer Benton 488. Ben Galvan 489. Thornn 490. Mack Truck 491. Osiris 492. J.W. Boss 493. The Hussla 494. Jeff Starr 495. Superstar Steve 496. Dango Wynn 497. Sean Royal 498. Supreme Lee Great 499. Bill Mudd 500. Pepper Parks Thoughts???  | ||||
| HOSPITALIANO | posted on 09-25-2001 @ 10:46 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | #1 I sure as hell hope you cut and pasted that because otherwise it would just be really sad. #2, RVD did have a lot of off time this last year, but I can't see him being that low. #3 I've seen #498 Supreme Lee Great and he is just sad and doesn't belong on that list. | ||||
| Rob Van Dam FN Moron is an indian giver!! I had my cool status for about 10 min. then it was gone. GONE! G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Agent WD40 Licensed to Kill My spoon is TOO BIG. (finally) Hanger-on to the JYDs for LIFE I INVENTED ORANGE MOTHERFUCKER This status is sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥hέm | posted on 09-25-2001 @ 10:56 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 01 | 59. Rob Van Dam thats just horrible  "The Whole F'n Show" (Thanks to Jolene for the sig) | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 09-25-2001 @ 11:13 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote: I said I was bored, but not THAT bored. C+P all the way... quote: Since I'd probably have him much lower, I don't really know what to say. But he IS improving... What I don't understand is why guys like Scott Steiner, HHH, and Chris Benoit, who haven't wrestled in such a long time and won't be wrestling again for a long time, are so high on the list. I think they're judging on past reputation in addition to current status, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of an annual list? Eh... | ||||
| IAmMighty | posted on 09-25-2001 @ 11:50 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | quote: How??? quote: Who's better than Kanyon? 147 quote: Didn't he use to tag team with Godzilla?:-) | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 09-25-2001 @ 11:57 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Where the fuck is Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair...this cant be an all time list...but why are people like Vader on there then. And this got me too:quote: What the fuck???!!! | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 12:24 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | Come on Everybody knows that Hardcore Holly and Faarooq are better than RVD. Thats like listing Top 30 Baseball Teams and having 5. Pittsburgh Pirates 7. Kansas City Royals 26. New York Yankees.  | ||||
| Just Jon | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:09 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | quote:Because he's wrestling overseas. PWI does have a set criteria they use, and Angle ddefinitely deserves to be #1. He has really picked up his game and made himself a worthy World Title Contender. -----  E-mail: [email protected] AIM: JonNeedsSN Adoptee: I have an empty basement yet again... You listen to me! While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is I am a nay-sayer and a hatchet man in the fight against violence! I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King! My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method...is love. I love you, Sheriff Truman. | ||||
| Vapour | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 11:47 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | I didn't realise there are that many active "PROFESSIONAL" Wrestlers. How much are those in the bottom 400 making? $50.00 per match? HA HA HA HA  | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 11:57 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Are you kidding me? How the hell is he still wrestling. He sounded like Muhammed Ali when he was on O&A. quote: Sucks to be you there Kronic boy. Even Gillberg is better than you. Ha Ha! quote: Isn't he about 350 spots too high.  | ||||
| Rob Van Dam FN Moron is an indian giver!! I had my cool status for about 10 min. then it was gone. GONE! G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Agent WD40 Licensed to Kill My spoon is TOO BIG. (finally) Hanger-on to the JYDs for LIFE I INVENTED ORANGE MOTHERFUCKER This status is sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥hέm | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 5:57 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 01 | 22. Matt Hardy i HATE matt hardy, he should be in the 400's if on the list at all. 32. Albert 59. Rob Van Dam albert is higher than RVD? ALBERT!! what were these guys smoking when they made this?? "The Whole F'n Show" (Thanks to Jolene for the sig) | ||||
| TheShocker | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 6:53 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: I dunno...but I'm willing to bet that RVD recommended it... quote: Just a note of trivia: Helms ranked #234 in 1999, and #144 in 2000. And now he's #31. That's gotta deserve a "most improved" award or something. I hope you've got your things together. I hope you're well prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. One eye is taken for an eye. -CCR Go Ahead. E-Mail Me | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 10:12 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | how is the rock at #14? | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 7:28 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | maybe because he has only been back for a few months. He should be 3 or 4 at worst. | ||||
| Vapour | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 11:12 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | They were definately smooking some shit. HA HA HA HA | ||||
| mrbungle | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 12:08 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | The 500 is always a mix of great and shit...quote: The guy has no knees, but he's number 4...maybe 5 years ago, but he's not the same... quote: You're right, he should be a lot lower...unless they rank based on interview skills..which they don't... quote: Uhhhhh no....even sadder, Haku is listed one before the Sandman...  It's not funny, my ass is on fire.... Thanks to the lovely Jolene for my sig pic... Douche or dressing? Yeahhh!!! | ||||
| Officer Joe Friday | posted on 09-28-2001 @ 12:29 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | This is just completely random. It's like they didn't have a set criteria and just threw some non-WWF wrestlers in there to shake things up. The criteria couldn't be just wrestling since The Rock is at 14 and he's not the best wrestler. Maybe they just made an exception in his case. As for RVD, if they did strictly wrestling, he would be ranked WAY WAY too high. But taking into effect that they probably took charisma and ability to pop the crowd into account, I think they ranked him too low. ------------------- But there's also this: there are over 5,000 men in this city, who know that being a policeman is an endless, glamourless, thankless job that's gotta be done. I know it, too, and I'm damn glad to be one of them." | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 09-28-2001 @ 3:08 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote: Um, no. Muto is in the middle of what is probably the greatest comeback in wrestling history. In the past few months, he's had more great matches than ANYONE else in the world, hands down. Check out his matches against Kojima, Hase, Tenryu, and Nagata for starters, the man is back in a big way. He is easily #1 in the world right now. Hell, he reportedly pulled a decent match out of Scott Hall of all people!! Now, if we could only get Muto vs. Kawada... quote: If they were only judging on wrestling, then Undertaker wouldn't be anywhere near this list. Instead, he's #11... | ||||
| HydratedPeach So... how did you get your spiffy new status? Age-Challenged Sexual Tension Relief Worker | posted on 09-29-2001 @ 5:40 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 01 | The thing I find most amusing about this year's list is that Joe Rules, an indy wrestler whose whole gimmick is based on his placement in the PWI 500 list (he started out as Mr 500, and was Mr 438 last year) is now considering calling himself "Mr NL" (not listed) after learning his name was included in the "Farewell to the 500" list. HydratedPeach Graduate of FollowThisLogic's School of Hard Knocks | ||||
| HydratedPeach So... how did you get your spiffy new status? Age-Challenged Sexual Tension Relief Worker | posted on 09-29-2001 @ 5:40 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 01 | Be a dear and ignore this, will you? :) This message was edited by HydratedPeach on 9-29-01 @ 5:50 AM | ||||
| prototype | posted on 09-29-2001 @ 12:36 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | Rvd sould be in the top ten and Jericho should move up a little. Free Northern Ireland | ||||
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