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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Booking 101 - Ending the WWF Implosion | ||||
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| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 11-06-2001 @ 10:35 AM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01  | It's obvious that the WWF right now is in a big time creative slump. What should have been he biggest angle of all time, the WCW invasion, has been botched to the point where it's pretty much pointless to continue on with it. Ratings are the lowest they've been in years, ticket sales are down, and even the most loyal fans are starting to move away from the product. Needless to say, something must be done very soon to salvage what's left of the invasion angle, and move in a new direction. Which is where I come in with my long-term, company saving outline. It would be so much easier for me to do this if I could change history (something WWF writers are notoriously guilty of), but for the sake of continuity, I won't. We're now going to school, so take some notes... --------------------------------- First of all, under my plan, there are a few things they must do before Survivor Series: - Sign Ric Flair at any and all cost. Buy out his current deal, and give him whatever he wants. This is absoutely 100% necessary. - Do a better job of hyping Survivor Series. As of now, we have a 5 on 5 match, but does anyone know what's supposed to be on the line? Does anyone believe that there's a chance there will no longer be a WWF, or there will no longer be an Alliance? The answer to both quesions is no, due to criminally insufficient hype. It must be made very clear to the audience that whichever side wins, be it WWF or Alliance, gains control of the WWF television shows, trademarks, licenses, and any potential future use of the WCW and ECW as independent promotions. All wrestlers, announcers, managers, valets, and other assorted personnel under contract to either WWF or the Alliance will be at the mercy of the winning side. Spell it out to everyone, winner takes all, loser gets nothing. - Get the WCW title belt back around the waist of Chris Jericho on the last Smackdown before SS. I'm usually opposed to hotshotting the title belts, but at this point no further damage can really be done, and this is absolutely a necessary move in the context of my plan. Earl Hebner will be the ref, and the win must be clean. - Do not, under any circumstances, allow anyone to defeat Kurt Angle for the US title. - Other than that, just continue with business as usual until SS. I'm more concerned with what happens at the PPV, and afterwards. -------------------------------------------- Chapter 1: Survivor Series Screwjob Why not, it's tradition at this point. Aah, but this will be a screwjob unlike any screwjob ever seen before. I should also make note of the fact that Ric Flair, who has been signed by now, is seen in the audience. Fast-forward... We've got the big 5 on 5 main event down to the wire, with Jericho, Rocky, and Vince left on the WWF side, and Angle on the Alliance side, with Earl Hebner again as referee. Rocky appears to have Angle beat for a sure WWF victory, when (SWERVE!) Vince and Jericho turn on their partner, beatdown, Angle pins Rock, Vince and Jericho subsequently lay down for Angle, giving the victory and control of everything I outlined above, to the Alliance. Ric Flair jumps the barricade to ringside, and he, Vince, Angle, and Jericho run to the back and out of the arena together, all of them extremely.happy about what has transpired. PPV ends with the camera focused in the ring on a confused Rock with a stunned and confused JR, and a fade out... ------------------------------- I'll be back soon with MUCH more, and all will be made clear. Any thoughts thus far?  "My political opinions lean more towards anarchy....The most improper job of any man, even saints, is bossing other men."-J.R.R. Tolkien, The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, 1981 "Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker and Tits"-George Carlin "Now you listen here to me, you horrible little creature"-William Regal to X-Pac | ||||
| Vapour | posted on 11-06-2001 @ 10:43 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | Sir Okonkwo, Forget about about NBC must see thursday, that will make for a MUST SEE RAW! I am loving it so far  NATION OF DOMINATION This message was edited by Vapour on 11-6-01 @ 10:57 AM | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 11-06-2001 @ 11:52 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Chapter 2 - Aftermath Now it's the day after Survivor Series, and last we saw, Vince McMahon, Kurt Angle, and Chris Jericho, with the help of Ric Flair, had seemingly conspired to help the Alliance to beat the WWF. But why? Open Raw, team Alliance come out to the ring (minus Angle). While they are happy to finally have control of the WWF from Vince McMahon, they are all still a little bit worried. Shane demands to know why Vince would hand him over the business like that, where Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle are (since he now owns their contracts), and where does Ric Flair fit into all of this. As Shane continues his rant in the ring, a man in a suit comes out and hands a letter to Paul Heyman. Heyman informes Shane that it's a letter from Vince's attorney, and he'll be giving an interview via satellite shortly. Shane back on the mic, full of false confidence, says that's all well and good, but it really doesn't matter anyway, because Vince doesn't have any authority anymore. He says that it doesn' t matter how he won, all that matters is the fact that he DID win. Cut to break... Next segment, after a recap of the events of Survivor Series, Vince McMahon is shown via satellite from his office in Stanford Ct, flanked by Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho with their respective title belts. Vince: "I've seen this day coming for a long time, the day when my own children would take over my business, much like I did to my own father before building the Sports Entertainment empire that is now known as the WWF. But, unlike my father, I had enough sense to plan ahead for this day. I have seen how, since allowing my children into the business, they have taken what I worked my whole life to build and dragged it into the ground, leaving the World Wrestling Federation in the sorry state you see today, as opposed to the glory days of previous years. In fact, there are those who say that Shane and Stephanie McMahon are the worst thing to ever happen to the wrestling business, and I would be very hard pressed to disagree. "So now, Shane, yes you have the television shows, the trademarks, the licenses, the WWF video library, and control of any future incarnations of WCW and ECW. But what you don't know is there are a few things you don't have access to. See Shane, you're pretty bright, so I guess you've figured out by now that I let you win last night. I don't want any part of that which is now yours, not anymore. But Shane, as you are aware, I have the best attorneys money can buy, whom I have been working with extensively over the past few weeks to guarantee a few things. First of all, I had the contracts of Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle transferred from contracts to the WWF, to contracts to Vince McMahon. And obviously, along with Jericho and Angle, come the WCW World Championship and WCW US Championship. Also, my attorneys have secured for me the exclusive rights to the videotape libraries of the WCW and ECW, as well as unlimited mutual access to your WWF videotape library. In addition, the Saturday night timeslot that was formerly WWF Excess is now in the name of Vince McMahon, as well as future rights to the Sunday Night Heat timeslot. "Now, you're probably wondering what I could possibly want with all of this, seeing as how I have relinquished the rights to promote any of the existing federations. And while this may be true, remember, I'm Vince McMahon, and I have very, very deep pockets. Deep enough, in fact, to start my very own, brand new, wrestling federation. So with the help and loyalty of Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle, I am founding the American Federation of Wrestling, or AWF. And if you think I don't have enough help, trust me Shane, I have plenty of help. For one thing," (pointing to WCW title belt), "I have history and tradition on my side. And also..." (Out walks Ric Flair, followed by Arn Anderson, Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit, and Eddy Guerrero) "I have credibility!" Flair: "So, if you don't like it now, don't worry. Because soon enough, you will learn to love it! Whooo!" Vince: "So be sure to tune in Saturday night at 8 to TNN, to see the new revolution in professional wrestling. I will now leave you to your Sports Entertainment broadcast." ----------------------- Plenty more still to come, including detailed short and long term plans for Vince's AWF and Shane's WWF, and division of the talent rosters. Damn, this shit is fun! "My political opinions lean more towards anarchy....The most improper job of any man, even saints, is bossing other men."-J.R.R. Tolkien, The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, 1981 "Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker and Tits"-George Carlin "Now you listen here to me, you horrible little creature"-William Regal to X-Pac | ||||
| JackDan1974 | posted on 11-06-2001 @ 12:05 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 01 | Sir O, I really like your idea. For one it is inventive, and would totally spin the wrestling community into frenzy. I would also add the wrestlers that have not signed with anyone like Scott Steiner, and possible Sting.  | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 11-06-2001 @ 12:40 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Further explaination of the need to begin a brand new federation: It would end the Invasion angle once and for all, and in a logical way. It would erase some of the aura of stagnation currently associated with the WWF, without a major immediate talent overhaul. The WCW name is damaged beyond repair at this point. It's just synonymous with shit, and it would be much easier to start a brand new federation from the ground up, than it would be to lift the negative stigma from the WCW brand. There are still the legal issues regarding ECW, so using that name would be out of the question. Alternative programming/niche marketing. Since there is already a major Sports Entertainment federaion it really wouldn't be a good business move to begin another SE fed. Why compete with yourself? It would be a smart move, however, to start a major wrestling federation, and go after all the fans of WCW who have just stopped watching wrestling altogether in the last few years, as well as the hardcore fans who watch indys and foreign wrestling. Professional wrestling, as opposed to SE, has been around for over a century, and there will always be a market for it. Why not cater to that market if the opportunity is there? Some more questions to be answered: Where does all this leave Undertaker, Kane, and Rocky? How do they feel about working for Shane and Stephanie McMahon? What about WWF undercard and midcard guys like Bob Holly, Al Snow, and Edge? What's Paul Heyman's role? What's Jim Ross' role? What about Mick Foley? What about the WCW Tag Titles? How could Vince start a new federation wih only two active wrestlers? What do video libraries have to do with anything? I still don't understand why Vince would just give it up like that. I demand more of an explaination! I still want the McMahons off my television! What about that? Stay tuned for answers, and SO much more... "My political opinions lean more towards anarchy....The most improper job of any man, even saints, is bossing other men."-J.R.R. Tolkien, The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, 1981 "Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker and Tits"-George Carlin "Now you listen here to me, you horrible little creature"-William Regal to X-Pac | ||||
| Numb Nutts | posted on 11-06-2001 @ 1:27 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | Dont forget to work HHH into the story line somehow. I like your Idea but it really doesnt kill the invasion angle, it just added a new name to the mix.  | ||||
| King f-tard | posted on 11-06-2001 @ 3:12 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | I love it, I could totally see their ratings and popularity explode, too bad it prolly wont happen. I would love so sit in on one of their strategy sessions. IM me Or E-Mail Me | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 11-06-2001 @ 3:19 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote: Of course! quote: No No NO!! It does kill the invasion angle, because after SS, we are left with two seperate promotions, running their own shows, with no interpromotional storylines. Nobody is trying to overtake another promotion, no more alliance, thus then, no invasion. ----------------------------- Chapter 3 - Build and Rebuild We last left off in the middle of the Raw after Survivor Series, right after Vince McMahon's big announcement. After a couple of matches (they really could be anything, Hardys vs. Dudleys for the millionth time, X-Pac vs. Kidman, Edge vs. Christian, whatever), Shane and Stephanie once again prance out to the ring, obviously elated. Shane gives a speech, basically calling Vince senile for even thinking he can run a successful competing promotion, saying he's out of touch, and that he and Stephanie have talked it over, and have decided that they have nothing more to accomplish. Since their goal of overtaking their father's business has been successful, all that's left for them to do now is sit at home and watch the money roll in. Shane calls Paul Heyman into the ring, and appoints him as the new president of the WWF effective immediately, before he and Stephanie take their long overdue leave from on-screen activity. Heyman grabs the mic, and immediately goes into a tirade against Jim Ross, making fun of him for his longtime loyalty to Vince McMahon and the WWF, even when he wasn't happy about what was going on. He tells JR that he knows him too well, and that all JR wants right now is to be fired, so he could go on to work for Vince's new promotion. JR nods at this statement, and says, "Finally you're right about something, Paul. I can't think of anyone I'd less like to work for than you." Paul: "But you see JR, that wouldn't be fair to your fans, to my fans, to the WWF fans. No, you are still under contractual obligation to sit next to me and call the matches, just as you always have. And there's nothing you can do about it" (All this would achieve would be to reinforce JR's position as WWF commentator, only now he'd be doing it against his will, with Paul playing gloating heel captor to JR's rebellious babyface prisoner.) Paul would then call out Mick Foley, and after some mic interplay, fire him as WWF commissioner, saying he's washed up, and his days in wrestling are now officially over. Foley now has a reason to start working for Vince's AWF later down the road. Next up on Heyman's list is Regal, who he fires for being incompetent and not seeing that Vince McMahon used Angle to infiltrate the Alliance. With the role of commissioner now open, he is under orders to fill that spot with none other than Hunter Hearst Helmsley. HHH can now align himself with top heels Austin, Booker, DDP, and Test against faces Rocky, Undertaker, Kane, and... Rob Van Dam. Paul will call him out next, and berate him for his poor performance in the Survivor Series main event (RVD will have been the first man eliminated), saying that he's ashamed for bringing him into the federation in the first place. But instead of firing him, Heyman would rather keep him around as his own personal bitch! Since RVD is already getting major face pops, it's pretty much a given that he'll fit right in next to Rock and company at the top of the card, and he'll get some major rub from a long-term feud down the road with HHH when he returns to the ring. It is important that HHH's first feud will be with RVD, somewhat similar to the Austin/Hart feud from 95-96, with RVD ultimately going over before HHH turns face heading into his Wrestlemania match against Austin. See how much more wide open the playing field is once you clear out a few McMahons? Paul Heyman would be so much more effective as a heel president than the Shane/Steph combo ever would, and as a commentator, he could put the real heat where it belongs: on the guys in the ring. -------------------------------------------- Still to come: building the AWF (Benoit, old and new talent, and Horsemen!) "My political opinions lean more towards anarchy....The most improper job of any man, even saints, is bossing other men."-J.R.R. Tolkien, The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, 1981 "Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker and Tits"-George Carlin "Now you listen here to me, you horrible little creature"-William Regal to X-Pac | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 11-06-2001 @ 8:16 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | Ah, now that is some good shit Oko. You're definatley better than Stephanie :) I like your whole firing idea, and how you left Linda out of whole mix, it'll be intersesting how you fit Benoit into the angle,time for him to come back now... | ||||
| Harry Ballzanya | posted on 11-06-2001 @ 11:01 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | damn, id rather read this than watch raw Don't Like It? GET THE FUCK OUT!! | ||||
| prototype | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 4:23 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | I love every thing but can't stand Flair hes to old he needs to retire. USA Bin Laden is a dead man Free Northern Ireland | ||||
| suicidalsteve | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 4:58 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | holy shit!!! i've enjoyed this post more than i've probably enjoyed any raw or smackdown in the past year or so. main thing i like about this is u put the REAL wrestlers, not the stone colds or rockys whose main thing is their persona, in their own fed and just let them concentrate more on the actual matches. i could see those main events each week going like half hour or so. haha damn you for getting me excited about something that will never happen!!!!! | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 9:22 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Spin it into a frenzy? I don't know about THAT. Hell, you wouldn't have to be a "smart" to know that it's just a storyline. Anyone with even a quarter of a brain knows this about the current invasion and would probably expect the same from the AWF. I do see what you're up to, Okonkwo. Basically this is a way to wipe the slate clean. Kill the current invasion and restart it the way it SHOULD have been - two separate shows, with wrestlers actually jumping Feds instead of joining a stable. Because that's really all that the WWF and the Alliance are now... big stables. That was the huge mistake that they made with all of this. Too much inter-promotional crap. So much that - oops - people got smart. They realized it's a big angle. Though I do enjoy the booking IN THIS VERY THREAD (heh, sorry).. I guess we all know it's impossible. I mean: 1) McMahons getting off TV? Shame on you. 2) Unfortunately I think Flair is content with sitting out the AOL/TW deal, but it's almost over. 3) Vince would never - EVER - admit that he was headed into the ground, even if the story was that he wasn't a part of the WWF anymore. 4) JackDan, I believe Sting wants to be done, and Steiner is poison. Oh, and if Heyman wants to really be hated in the commentary situation, he could bring on Joel Gertner. ;) EDIT: It should also be said that, though it may not be likely, it would be AMAZING for Flair to show up at Survivor Series, as it takes place in Greensboro, North Carolina - Flair Country.  "Miracles and lucky charms made the girl of my dreams the girl in my arms." - Dr. Frank Noellevious.... she's made me so proud. Viddy well, little brother... err, sister. This message was edited by FollowThisLogic on 11-7-01 @ 10:12 AM | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 10:31 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | ok sir, i will give you one thing...you are very creative. you have kept me on the edge of my seat, and wanting more. of course that is the idea of a good booker, to make the people come back for me, which the wwf has forgotten. they, unlike you, have been only looking to the next show with their storylines, and have no long term goals. so thus then, would you please send your resume, along with these ideas to the wwf offices in stamford connecticut? we as fans would appreciate it. now, about this library you were discussing...could we perhaps have our 24 hour wrestling channel now? or maybe get us a few new dvd's of all old great matches? just an idea for you to bring up at your interview...  AIM: SkiT4you | ||||
| Vapour | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 11:00 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | quote: I don't think that his contract prevents him from watching a good sport show. He can come as a spectator. NATION OF DOMINATION | ||||
| c-sucking a-hole | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 11:30 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Feb. 01 | -ANGLE is a spy!!! -RVD to jump to WWF, he needs to change his attitude to become a maineventer. -WWF wins at SS, day after SS we have some members of the WCW/ECW(lower mid carders), coming to Vince asking for a second chance. -Bring Lance Storm to WWF and team him with Jericho, they were a great team in SMW. -Once the smoke clears ROCK=HEAL!!! -HHH will return and not be decided where he stands with his "wife" or heart -In Jan we will see Hall, Nash, Steiner coming in and Flair said he wants to come back. Things may look bad now, but could turn out very good just give it time  "Television - teacher, mother, secret lover!"-Homer J. Simpson | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 12:00 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Sure, if he paid for the ticket and just watches, no problem. But they can't put the camera on him unless he's out of the AOL/TW contract or else AOL/TW could (and probably would) sue the living crap out of the WWF. And if they can't show him on TV, they definitely wouldn't be able to book him jumping any barriers and participating in any storylines. Here's a bit of bullet-point booking of my own. Very generic, though. No specifics, as this is a process I'm talking about, rather than actual angles that take place after the breakup. -Alliance goes over at the PPV. Vince, not being above down-on-his-knees begging, manages to work out a deal with his kids. Each Fed will take one of the major shows, Alliance gets Excess, WWF gets Heat, PPVs are split down the middle, cleverly so the WWF gets all the major-name PPVs with one exception - Shane will get Wrestlemania. This is Vince's major bargaining chip, that gets Shane to agree to the deal. -Jumping will occur. There will be guys who leave WWF because they find Vince to be weak. There will be guys who are lured to the WWF by promises of money and contracts. Jumping is done in moderation, not too many major stars jumping all over the place. The ECW name is dropped (in reality, for legal reasons - in storylines, Shane will feel that WCW does not need the ECW name to make them great.... this prompts ECW stars to rebel, leading to their jump). If Bisch does somehow get involved, Shane should place him in the figurehead WCW role instead of himself. -The two Feds take their own shape, by themselves. Cross-promotional angles/run-ins are few and far between - the way it should be. -This all builds up to Wrestlemania... as people get used to the idea of separate Feds, WWF takes over WM, NWO-style. Be honest - we'd all mark out like crazy. "Miracles and lucky charms made the girl of my dreams the girl in my arms." - Dr. Frank Noellevious.... she's made me so proud. Viddy well, little brother... err, sister. | ||||
| Vapour | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 12:50 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | Sir Okonkwo's Ideas are pretty good. Once the separation has been made and we have two independent shows, we could have one PPV each year that is a challenge between the WWF and the AWF. This will be like all other sports. Call it super Bowl (AFC vs NFC), NBA Finals (East Vs West) etc. The PPV will feature matches between the Top stars in each fed. WWF stars fights it out till they are down to one and AWF does the same. Finnal match will be the between the top guy in each fed. winner get a belt as the National Wrestling Champion. (of course there will be screw jobs all over. Guys costing their own federation the Championship because of hatred or because they are crossing over) NATION OF DOMINATION | ||||
| matilda | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 3:39 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01 | quote: i like the idea but i think vince might try and keep the rock as a face for as long as possible because of the huge amount of money he brings in through merchandise, i know in this country if you walk into a shop that sells WWF merchandise, 70% of it is Rock stuff. Rock would also have to be a face around the release date of his film The Scorpian King so they make even more money. I'd like to see Rock as a heal though. Sir O, nice ideas :-) vince should hire you. my website "WELL, IT'S ONE LOUDER, ISN'T IT? IT'S NOT TEN" (the artist formerly known as edge) **Official Good Will Embassador from England** | ||||
| c-sucking a-hole | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 4:49 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Feb. 01 | your right matilda its all about the $$$$$. I hate the Rock he is soooo overrated!! if you look at the talent in the WWF locker room you have great guys from all over the world: Mike Awsome was great in Japan and he is a jobber in the WWF(bullshit)In American Wrestling its dosen't matter how great of a talent you are it matters how the crowd reacts. "Television - teacher, mother, secret lover!"-Homer J. Simpson | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 6:57 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | There are so many ways the WWF could make this angle better, but they aren't stupid enough to get someone to read O & A, Vince's crew is the stupidest of writers he has ever had. Oko, can't wait for your next piece of writing :) | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 7:47 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Thanks everyone for the positive response. Sorry for taking so long with this last part, but I wanted to get everything right. It's really ambitious, and after you read it, you'll probably either think I'm a genius or a nut job. Or maybe both... ----------------------------- Chapter 4 - Starting the AWF, the anti-Sports Entertainment Obviously, with very little talent under his belt to begin with, Vince McMahon wouldn't be able to promote shows right away. But with the Saturday night timeslot, he would have a vehicle to promote his new startup fed to a national audience, which if done right, could easily build strong interest heading into their debut show. Here's what I would do. First show, open with Vince McMahon, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, and Ric Flair in a television studio, in a "roundtable" type setting. Right off the bat, they should let their plans be known for what they want the AWF to be: a wrestling show for wrestling fans. Vince would say how he's been promoting Sports Entertainment in the WWF for many years, and has lost interest in that style and felt it was time to go back to his roots, so to speak. Let it be known that their style will be different from the current WWF: no backstage cameras and sketches, no cartoon characters, more emphasis on wrestling matches and title belts, and the feuds and angles that would naturally evolve from in-ring competition. Don't necessarily bash the WWF style (since, in real life, Vince is still owner of that too), just promote this as something for old school fans who may not like that style, and for fans who want some variety. Vince McMahon would now introduse Mike Tenay as play-by-play commentator. Anyone who used to watch WCW from 95-98 knows that he's extremely informed and knowledgeable, and can help to get over what's happening in the ring better than anyone except maybe Jim Ross, who is currently in WWF against his will. They could then show a match from the videotape library (which Vince owns, as per the angle from Raw), possibly an old Flair/Steamboat title match or Funk/Flair. Before the match, explain the circumstances behind the match and set the scene for the audience, and after the match, they could discuss the match, what it meant to the careers of the participants, and what made the match something special. Every week, bring in a special guest to the roundtable discussion (Benoit, Regal, old school guys like Bob Backlund and Jack Briscoe), show an old match or two of theirs, and put over the history of professional wrestling and the importance of respecting it as an art form. Also during this period, the WWF will be releasing undercard guys like Lance Storm, Jerry Lynn, Shane Helms, Matt Hardy, Christian, basically smaller guys who wouldn't get a fair shot in the WWF environment, but could flourish in the AWF. Interview them, show some of their old matches (Storm/Candido from ECW, Helms/Misterio from WCW), and have them put over their excitement about being a part of this new venture and an environment that plays better to their strengths. Another idea is to recap classic angles and feuds like Dusty Rhodes and the Road Warriors vs. Ric Flair and the Horsemen, Midnight Express vs. Rock n Roll Express, and Raven vs. Dreamer, which would have old-school fans interested in seeing more, and they could tie these into new video and DVD releases (show a teaser and recap for free on Saturday, buy the DVD to see everything). In addition to this, there is the need to keep the talent they have signed fresh. Send them to indy shows around the country to work against top regional talents, and have a small camera crew tape the matches. Tenay and McMahon could overdub commentary in the studio and show one or two of these matches each week. Matches like Dean Malenko and Eddy Guerrero against Doug Williams and American Dragon would make for great programming, and a Jericho title defense against Christopher Daniels in California or Low-Ki in New Jersey would be very beneficial for the indy promotions, so it shouldn't be difficult to get them to agree to do it, and would prevent ring-rust in AWF talent. These matches would be the highlight of any particular week's AWF broadcast, and would build fan interest in seeing these new guys come into the AWF full time, once the federation officially begins running. All of this, of course, needs to build to something. Set an official launch date for sometime in April, 2002, shortly after the WWF runs Wrestlemania and interest in wrestling should be relatively high. For the first show, run a series of matches between established stars like Lance Storm and Jerry Lynn against newcomers who have been seen on Saturday television, and possibly work out an agreement with a Japan fed (preferrably New Japan) to bring in a couple of guys on a short-term basis, so they could do an Angle vs. Mutoh match, or Regal vs. Nagata, which would kick all kinds of ass. A main event would be announced between AWF (formerly WCW) champion Chris Jericho and Chris Benoit, who is making his big return after months off due to surgery. Mike Tenay and Vince McMahon should be on commentary for the show, with Arn Anderson and Ric Flair out doing guest commentary for the main event. Benoit should have Regal in his corner, and Angle in Jericho's corner. After a long match, Jericho goes over cleanly to retain his title, and he and Benoit shake hands, happy to have put on a good debut show. Post-match celebration in the ring with Jericho, Benoit, Angle, Regal, Anderson, and Flair as the show seemingly ends when (SWERVE!) a four on two beatdown on Jericho and Angle. Flair, Anderson, Benoit, and Regal are now alone in the ring. Flair takes the mic, and deleviers a classic interview about how wrestling tradition involves looking out for your own best interests, and it is in his best intrest for he and Arn Anderson to resurrect the Four Horsemen, and who better to do it with than Regal and Benoit, who he puts over as the new generation's Flair and AA. He can reference back to his heel days in the NWA, and berate the audience for not seeing it coming. New Horsemen give the "four" hand sign, as the first ever AWF show fades out. This would give the new federation strong main-event faces and heels right off the bat, and leave fans interested in seeing more heading out of their debut show. After a short while, Anderson and Flair could step down as actual Hormen and give their spots to active wrestlers, maybe Guerrero and Storm. For the most part, I'd keep the really big guys in the WWF so AWF wrestlers aren't made to look "minor league" in the eyes of people who have been conditioned to think that bigger is better in wrestling, and just bring in quality workers with little emphasis on size and physique. This would also open up the opportunity to bring in Rhyno soon after the debut show as a monster heel (he'll look huge next to the AWF roster, whereas he's just average size in the WWF, he can have credible matches with their top guys, and he'll be coming back from a long absense from surgery around that time), and a guy like Mike Awesome could be booked as he was in ECW and Japan, before WCW killed him. Needless to say, there are millions of possibilities. AWF house shows would be booked in smaller venues (say 4000-5000 seat arenas), with lower production costs for tv shows, and as the WWF scales back on PPV's, they could start promoting their own. Their first PPV should be sometime in the late summer/early fall, after a substantial fan base has been built. One last thing, and I need to stress this, there should be NO interpromotional matches or angles with the WWF for a long time. They need to keep the illusion of a totally independent promotion, so four or five years down the road, when both promotions are going strong and are relatively equal, they could put on an interpromotional card which would be the biggest thing the wrestling world has ever seen. Long term planning is a necessity, especially with a brand new product, and immediately hotshotting a feud with the WWF would mean it's immediate death. -------------------------- Well, I hope you all liked it. I'm actually considering sending all this to the WWF along with a resume, even though I don't meet the requirements in their ad. I have no television writing experience or formal secondary education, both of which they apparently require. I'm just a creative guy who watches lots of wrestling. Who knows though, maybe I'll get lucky.... "My political opinions lean more towards anarchy....The most improper job of any man, even saints, is bossing other men."-J.R.R. Tolkien, The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, 1981 "Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker and Tits"-George Carlin "Now you listen here to me, you horrible little creature"-William Regal to X-Pac | ||||
| c-sucking a-hole | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 8:21 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Feb. 01 | hey SO, as great as some of your ideas sound there is no way in hell the WWF would concider hireing you as a writer if you have no experience. Its great to hope but it wont happen. I love the idea of a show of old wrestling footage but with out the "roundtable" discussion have try to get interviews with the guys involved. Classics and just great fudes Flair/Steamboat for NWA was great, Funk/Catus from all over Japan, newer stuff like RVD/Jerry Lynn, Raven/Dreamer, and show early matches from maineventers like HHH,HBK,Steve Austin,Breat Hert(can they still show his stuff?),so many guys started off as low men and it would be great to show and remember how they got there. As for events for after Surivor Series: 1)have WCW/ECW lose and disband after the loss 2)which ever team has to "go away" should for about a month or 2 and get some expousor(i cant spell for shit) 3)Have the 2 connected but not directly like advertising on the airwaves of the running promotion. 3)WCW go back to its old ways(no, not being a shitty company) of a classic wrestling company, where you can talk about matcher 15 years form not like Flair/Steamboat. 4)ECW hostage take over(ie Pillman(RIP)Austin anyone rembember) it would be great seeing Haymen having Vince hostage. 5)Hardcore,Hardcore,Hardcore. More Blood,Bumps,and Barbedwire.One last match Catus Jack vs. Terry Funk Barbedwire-Hell in the cell-barbedwire board-thumb tack-death match.(Yea and big will fly) 6)Good story lines that dont run for 6+ months. Thats it for now hope its good, sorry for piss-poor spelling. "Television - teacher, mother, secret lover!"-Homer J. Simpson | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 8:31 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | Oko, ressurecting the Horesman would be an excellent idea! Nicey nice! Who cares if you don't get a job in the WWF as a writer, if you send your shit in, you'll give them ideas. Later on, if by any chance they use them, you'll know and we'll know that was your idea. You got some great skills. Nice way to bring back Benoit :) One foot in the grave I'm a fist of rage Far from saved I'm a fist of rage In a broken state! I'm a razor blade slittin! Through a wrist of hate I'm a fist of rage I'm a fist of rage I'm a fist of rage! | ||||
| Officer Joe Friday | posted on 11-07-2001 @ 8:43 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | Well you obviously have ideas and that's not a bad thing, that's a good thing. (sorry). A few flaws that I noticed though: A) Vince has no desire to promote stars that other companies built. Under your idea he would be doing that nonstop. Also, he has never really promoted a strict "wrestling" show and that would be a stray from the norm for him. If you want to run with this idea than you might need a new figurehead for this group. B) Sure pure wrestling is all well and good but what are the peak ratings this show would get? 3.5 - 4 tops? And that would be in a wrestling boom ala '98. It might fly in Japan but would only cater to the smart fan here. Just look at WCW in the 80s. Sure the wrestling was good but to the general fan the WWF was still tops and the only wrestling that mattered. So, I still think you need to mix sports-entertainment stuff in there as well. Focus on the wrestling but have other stuff as well to try and lure the common fan. The goal here is ECW '95. 3) You need more big names in there for the launch. You have only 4 people that people will care about (Angle, Jericho, Flair, Benoit). No one really cares about Anderson anymore and no one will ever care about Regal. I think he's a great wrestler but his style hasn't ever caught on here. Making him a member of the Horsemen would be pretty weak. If you were to reinvent the Horsemen you would need to get a really dominant group there. You want to be able to tell the viewer that this is going to be the "real" Horsemen and not the awful incarnations that plagued WCW on and off for its last few years. You would need a Horsemen stable circa 1987. And AWF? But wasn't that the name of the syndicated league from 1996 or so? The one with Slaughter, Missy Hyatt, Tom Zenk, and the matches broken down in rounds? I think it was. Need an original name. ------------------- But there's also this: there are over 5,000 men in this city, who know that being a policeman is an endless, glamourless, thankless job that's gotta be done. I know it, too, and I'm damn glad to be one of them." | ||||
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