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| King f-tard | posted on 12-27-2001 @ 2:24 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01  | Now I know there were probably threads about this before, but heres a brand-spanky new one - so heres the question. What are we looking forward to in the next year, with the supposed split into two squads for Monday and Thursday. What do you think will happen, do you think that the WWF will just spread themselves too thin, and it will get boring, like WCW did toward the end, or do you think that it will be interesting, like two different companies with cross overs? I personally think that with two different shows, they will start strong, but then after a few months, the crossovers will be a-plenty and the lines will cross back again, meaning that I dont think that this plan will work. Not in the long haul anyway.  IM me Or E-Mail Me | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 12-27-2001 @ 2:36 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | I like the fact that it will build up guys who are not getting a lot of time, but the people want to see the stars. They want to see Austin, Rock, HHH or otherwise they won't watch. There is no way in hell that they should even consider running 2 PPV's a month because people will not buy them. It is just too much to spend an extra $30 a month. They say Ric Fliar will run a group and Vince will run the other. After the Flair interview tonight judging by the spoilers, Flair vs mcMahon will be one of the biiger feuds in the WWF and people will want to see that. They will not want to see them separate. Personally, they should use Heat and Excess to build up the stars. Make your main show Raw. Involve the midcarders more on Smackdown and let them have a significant storyline. Perfect example, on a Heat Tazz went after Al Snow for the whole Tough ENough thing and it looked good and than nothing was mentioned for like a month.  | ||||
| RonRon5477 | posted on 12-27-2001 @ 2:38 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01 | The seperate story lines on two shows isn't a good idea. I think maybe they should get a third show for the week (instead of lame Sunday Night Heat). Then maybe seperate the story lines. Like some guys would show up on two night, or even go hardcore and show up on three nights. Shane Falco in The Replacement on the last play of the game: "I wish I could say something classy and inspirational, but that just wouldn't be our style. Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever." Want to use the O&A EZPass lane? here's how (only for NY listeners, sorry to everyone else): The URL is: "http://oarule.homestead.com/files/OA"+previous phone screener before Stinky+previous phone screener's girlfriend's name+".html" AIM: RonRon5477 | ||||
| hornygoatweed I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed | posted on 12-27-2001 @ 2:44 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | I like the idea of splitting it up into two factions. It should make the storylines better, and more of the underused talent will finally get their exposure (I hope). I'm all for PPV's, but I also think 2 a month is too much - noone would pay, and to be honest, even a PPV every mnth seems to be a bit much. I remember when it was just 4 or 5 a year, the PPV's were bigger, meant more, and were generally great. Nowadays the PPV's come so quickly that storylines don't have the time they need to develop into something good, and either get played out or dropped never to be heard from again. I'm looking forward to more quality from the WWF this year - I just hope that it can be maintained. Remember, Vince has no competition, and lets face it competition is what drives a company to do better. You can reach me through AIM or email. Don't be shy, drop a line and say Hi! | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 12-27-2001 @ 3:35 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | I think it's quite simple, really: nobody knows. Not Vince McMahon, not Jim Ross, not Dave Meltzer or Wade Keller. The wrestling business is so volatile that it really is impossible to predict what will happen in the next year. Will a new federation rise to prominence and compete with the WWF? Maybe XWF, maybe WWA, maybe CZW, maybe a different group that has yet to form? I certainly hope so, but who knows? On the proposed "WWF split", I look at it as I would any other plot device. There's a lot of hype for it right now, just as there was for Undertaker's return from injury as the American Bad Ass, Austin's return from injury and the "who drove the limo" storyline, the WCW Invasion and subsequent insertion of ECW into the fold, and most recently, the end of the Invasion. None of these angles/storylines lived up to the hype, and only served to convolute creative direction and alienate a section of the fanbase. So judging by their recent track record, we should expect the same of the roster split, right? Well, maybe not. It's really not the plan that's important, it's the execution. If the creative team can come up with a viable long-term plan and have the balls to stick with it, instead of going after quick fix after quick fix, it would certainly be a nice start. If Vince McMahon can halt his mid-life crisis and stop giving the old "fuck you" to his fans and critics and advertisers and stockholders alike, and pushing his family and friends at the expense of the talent, it would help a great deal. If the product they are selling to the fans would start to make some sort of sense, instead of continuing the attitude of "well they know it's fake anyway, so who cares if it's believable", they'd definitely be on the right track. If backstage egos can take a back seat to putting on a quality show and building stars, they'd almost be there. If all of the above happens, I think they'd be in good shape. All it really comes down to is respect, and right now the WWF is far from respectable. Treat the split with respect, and it will be a success. OR, they could rehire Hall and Nash and reunite the Clique to boost ratings. They could reintroduce Shane McMahon and Stephanie McMahon as major players to give more credibility to storylines. They could continue with their current direction of rehashing old storylines and give time to proven ratings draws such as Mae Young, Big Bossman, Big Show, and Patterson and Briscoe. They could turn Angle from face to heel 5 more times by March, give Undertaker his much-deserved World Title reign, and put Jericho back in the mid-card where he belongs. They could hire Hulk Hogan, and job Benoit to him in his return match, giving him instant credibility. They could continue to rebuild the tag team division with future superstars, such as the Billy Gunn/Chuck Palumbo tandem. They could continue to quietly push the use of legal and illegal muscle enhancers, who cares if their health suffers, people buy tickets to see muscles. And they could continue to bury the lightheavyweights, because nobody cares about the little guys. Similar ideas have worked so well in the past. So which direction do they take? Madmen feed on fear and lies to beat and burn and kill They say there are strangers who threaten us, our immigrants and infidels They say there is strangeness to danger us in our theatres and bookstore shelves That those who know what's best for us must rise and save us from ourselves This message was edited by Sir Okonkwo on 12-27-01 @ 3:42 PM | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 12-27-2001 @ 9:13 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | I'm not really looking forward to anything in 2002, I am slowly but surely losing interest in wrestling as it gets less and less entertaining as the years go on and more shitty and stupid. I probably won't even be watching WWF by the end of the year. If I had to look forward to something it would be Taker retiring! | ||||
| King f-tard | posted on 12-28-2001 @ 8:12 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | I agree about the PPVs 2 a month is too much, $60 for people without cheater boxes, thats a lot of cash - not worth it. This is the company that revolutionized the way we see professional wrestling, the company that did it all, and then they bought WCW and somehow fucked up the biggest storyline in the history of wrestling. Remember back when WCW was fun to watch, when Goldberg had just started his reign as champ, when the cruiserweights dominated all good matches, Rey, Juvy, Kaz, Prince I., Psychosis, even Lash leroux and of course La Parka :). That was wrestling at its best, quality action with a bunch of story. Hopefully Vinnie will do the right thing, and make the new wrestling world work and get people interested. IM me Or E-Mail Me | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 12-28-2001 @ 8:29 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | WCW only beat the WWF because of one reason and 3 letters, the NWO. Do you know who made up the NWO, the guys that nobody wants here. Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Hulk Hogan. Most wrestling fans are the casual fans that only care about the big superstar, whether it be Rock, Austin, HHH, Flair, etc. Look at every Raw and every Smackdown in every arena in the country now. Whenever a heel or Austin does an interview now, they say something and the fans yell What. It is getting a little ridiculous especially when it has absolutely nothing to do with Austin. Many fans are mindless sheep. That is why they eat up all the Rock's catchphrases. I agree I want to see more talent used and I also want to see jericho keep the title. I want guys like Rhyno, Jeff Hardy, RVD, Edge, etc to go onto better things. Obviously the WWF is doing something right because right now they are the only game in town. Yes, they need competition to make them stronger. To be honest. They were at their peak when Nitro was beating them in the ratings. I'll admit that I want to see some new matches, but guys like Austin, HHH, Rock, Angle draw ratings and draw PPV buys. People like Justin Credible, Raven, Lance Storm (Yes I like him), Saturn, Taka Michinoku, do not. | ||||
| HyBriD FN Moron is an indian giver!! I had my cool status for about 10 min. then it was gone. GONE! G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Agent WD40 Licensed to Kill My spoon is TOO BIG. (finally) Hanger-on to the JYDs for LIFE I INVENTED ORANGE MOTHERFUCKER This status is sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥hέm | posted on 12-28-2001 @ 9:36 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 01 | the wwf is just going downhill, and they're picking up speed. wrestling has been getting worse and worse. hopefully this 2 shows thing will help, but it will probably just end up being crap, much like everything else the wwf has been doing. CEBOLLA dogs know | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 12-28-2001 @ 9:50 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | I think things are improving. Ric Flair's promo last night on Vince was awesome. I am looking very forward to the buildup between Flair and Vince. Jericho as unified champ was a great idea. HHH coming back in 10 days will do wonders. I think they are getting back on track. | ||||
| HyBriD FN Moron is an indian giver!! I had my cool status for about 10 min. then it was gone. GONE! G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Agent WD40 Licensed to Kill My spoon is TOO BIG. (finally) Hanger-on to the JYDs for LIFE I INVENTED ORANGE MOTHERFUCKER This status is sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥hέm | posted on 12-28-2001 @ 9:57 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 01 | i think the return of hhh will give the wwf a temporary buzz, but when it calms down it will be business as usual. CEBOLLA dogs know This message was edited by HyBriD on 12-29-01 @ 12:12 AM | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 12-28-2001 @ 6:19 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | Exactly Hybrid, everyone already knows when and where HHH will return, won't be much of a shock when HHH returns. And I think the WWF is going downhill, and I think they will continue to until they get serious competition. | ||||
| GonzoStyle | posted on 12-30-2001 @ 5:16 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | I am looking forward to HHH's return and Scott Steiners debut, and we'll see from there. I'm Deep Inside Your Children. They Will Betray You In MY Name. Thanks Gooch for The Sig She-Mail Me Here | ||||
| TheShocker | posted on 12-30-2001 @ 9:11 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: Let's see, you've got CZW, which wants to be ECW when it grows up, you've got XWF, which probably has all their shows for 2002 taped already, and you've got WWA, which consists of the guys that got kicked out of every good promotion. If anyone has the potential to compete, it's WWA, but I think it would help if one of them got on nationwide TV first. As for the split, I think it's a stupid idea. Not the split per se, just the fact that they plan on calling both rosters the "WWF." If, maybe, Flair's was WCW or something (which just might sell those WCW shirts in the warehouse), and they actually provided legitimate competition, that would be different. But I think the main discrepancy is that if they split the roster, it'll be just like the Alliance debacle: all the faces are sided with Flair, and all the heels with Vince. And then, since faces have to feud with heels, the two sides will never truly stop leaving each other alone, and in the end, we'll be right back where we started. But that's just my opinion...I could be wrong. The  hockerProfessional Smartass Since 1983 Billions and Billions Served | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 12-31-2001 @ 2:07 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | That is exactly my take, Shocker. Somehow, the WWF will fuck it up. 2002's rumors so far are up-and-down. If the good ones come true, it could be a wrestling fans dream come true year with all the rumored aquasitions(sp?) but some could make it a disaster. Only time will tell, we'll just have to keep watching. | ||||
| Mangino I live... again. | posted on 01-06-2002 @ 2:23 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | What I think will happen...hmmmm.Hhopefully they will start to realize that Austin and Rocky's acts are starting to get old. I mean how many times can we see these guys being champions anymore?I feel that their time is done.I think they should start pushing other guys that have proven themselves in other feds. Taz,RVD,Spike Dudley,Lance Storm,Chris Benoit,Perry Saturn.With the exception of RVD, I seem to remember these guys kicking major hiney in the ECW and WCW.Give em a shot I say.Push up the younger guys like Kidman, Hurricane,even the fucking Tough Enough guy Maven.I would like to see what he could do in the ring against a guy like Test.Hopefully like I said....we can see a changing of the guard! I am the master of the clit.When you see this face you think clit. I get up in that shit yo! | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 01-08-2002 @ 9:07 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | well, I would hope that the wwf will listen to its fans when it does make these moves. give excess to wrestlers who aren't on tv right now. give the guys the time on tv so that fans will care about them. i am sorry, putting guys on jakked and metal is useless, because no one watches them. even heat isn't that highly watched. instead of splitting everyone into 2 groups, just spread things out, don't have all the regulars on raw and smackdown every night. give younger, hungry guys the opportunity. people bitched about hogan not getting out of the way of the younger wrestlers...is it that much different now? | ||||
| TheShocker | posted on 01-08-2002 @ 1:08 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: It's a little different. The Hogan situation was Hogan's fault, because he was a jackass. The current situation is Vince's fault, because he bought WCW and overloaded the roster. The main eventers of today are more than willing to help the younger guys...there's just too many of the younger guys. The hocker | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 01-08-2002 @ 6:01 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | That's why the split will be good. I'm seeing why everyone thinks this is a good idea. It would be cool if they gave RAW to the WWF and changed SmackDown! to WCW Nitro on Thursdays. I know it won't happen but I can keep dreaming right? And then they could bring back guys like DDP, Kidman and hopefully D'Lo, they need to give those guys a chance... This message was edited by rageparty on 1-8-02 @ 6:03 PM | ||||
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