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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Update on PPVs after the WWF split | ||||
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| Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! | posted on 01-11-2002 @ 2:16 PM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01  | This is from Dave Scherer of 1bob, so, well, you know, take it with a grain of salt: --------------------------- We are hearing rumblings that after the split, the WWF is considering having each promotion run eight solo PPVs for the different companies and then having the two companies work together to present combined shows on the other four months. It would stand to reason the combined shows would be the WWF's four big events of the year: The Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, SummerSlam and the Survivor Series, and that is what we are hearing would be the combined shows. This is just rumored at this point, but it's the word making the rounds. -------------------------------- This tells me that the WWF is no longer thinking of doing 2 PPVs a month, and instead will do one a month along with those combined efforts Dave just talked about. To me, there are three advantages to this: the PPV market won't be overbloated like it would be if the WWF asked people to shell out $60 a month, the "Big 4 PPVs" would be made that much more special, ensuring bigger buyrates, and the fact that each promotion would have one PPV every TWO months instead of one, would make each PPV that much more special than it would've been. Let's hope 1popupads.com is right this time around. Also, I'm not sure if it's been said on this site, but the rumored split date according to a whole bunch of sites over the past couple weeks, is now the night after the Rumble. Let's see if THAT holds. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO! | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 01-11-2002 @ 2:25 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | It makes more sense for the split to happen after the Rumble. I for one am looking forward to the split, and feel that this year will be the best in a while in the wrestling industry. You can already tell that the WWF is trying to make this Royal Rumble seem more gooder than the past 6 or 7 of them. Making the 4 big PPV's special again is a great idea, and i hope good ol' Dave is right on this one. Go Knicks, Giants, Rangers, and Rutgers Men's Basketball Long Live Psycho Bitch | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 01-11-2002 @ 2:30 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Ah Hello, unless I am stupid, this sounds to me that 8 months of the year there will be 2 PPV's a month, and the other 4 months will have one big one. Will RR, Wrestlemania, SS, Summerslam go up in price because they are special or will the other PPV's go down in price. You know something if that is the case, I could not give a flying fuck about guys like Justin credible, Raven, DDP, Billy Kidman, Xpac, etc. For my money, I would just rather see one big one a month. Yes, I would like some of the younger guys to get more exposure but not when it means that I have to spend more money to see a 2nd rate PPV. If everyone is together for one, why would people want to see them split and pay double the price for inferior matches.  | ||||
| RonRon5477 | posted on 01-11-2002 @ 2:53 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01 | quote:With the split, would they bring back the old Survivor Series?? 4 on 4 tag team elimination matches? Those were awesome! Now-a-days, it looks like any old pay per view. Shane Falco in The Replacement on the last play of the game: "I wish I could say something classy and inspirational, but that just wouldn't be our style. Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever." Want to use the O&A EZPass lane? here's how (only for NY listeners, sorry to everyone else): The URL is: "http://oarule.homestead.com/files/OA"+previous phone screener before Stinky+previous phone screener's girlfriend's REAL name+".html" AIM: RonRon5477 | ||||
| Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! | posted on 01-11-2002 @ 5:16 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | I don't know TeenWeek, he kinda worded it retardedly. To be clearer he should've written "There will be 16 solo pay per views split between the two promotions in the other 8 months" if it's like you said. Or, if it's how I interpreted it, he should've written "There will be 8 alternating solo PPV's for the other eight months." The way he wrote it, though lends to confusion. I mean, look at that statement:quote: The "eight solo PPV's for the different companies" is where you can interpret it like I did: THERE WILL BE EIGHT PPVs FOR THE COMPANIES, THAT'S IT! The "each promotion will have 8 solo PPV's" goes with how you interpreted it. This fuck contradicted himself in the same sentence. So, now that you pointed that out, I have no fucking idea WHAT it is. Shit, 1bob can't do anything right. If it IS like you said it, well, then, I'm a little less optimistic, but I think it will still definitely be best for business, and the Big 4 will still do HUGE! Either way, I'm looking forward to the split. And you say "I don't wanna see Justin Credible, etc." but how do you KNOW you don't wanna see them? YOU NEVER DO! That's my only major problem with the WWF nowadays. After 1996, you woulda said "I don't wanna see the Rock!" How did that turn out? You never know unless guys get pushes and enough time to make an impact, and splitting to two promotions will help that. If you don't wanna spend money on TWO pay per views a month, then here's a newsflash: DONT BUY BOTH PPVs! From a business standpoint, it'd still be best for the WWF because while less money would be spent on the solo PPVs than the PPVs now, combined, the WWF would make MORE money anyway. So, it's a smart business decision, which is all the WWF cares about, and SHOULD care about. What are ya gonna do? Vince usually finds a way to get more money in the end, as long as it doesn't have to do with football or bodybuilding. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO! | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 01-11-2002 @ 5:47 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | I think Scherer was hitting the bottle when he wrote this. It's impossible to decipher his ramblings. One thing to keep in mind, though, is it LOOKS like there will be a maximum of 20 PPV's a year (unless another group catches on, of course). When WCW and ECW were both going strong, there were 30 total wrestling PPV's a year. So, ultimately, a WWF monopoly still means less wrestling for all. | ||||
| HeyBEERMAN420 | posted on 01-13-2002 @ 11:02 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | man i just hope that the rosters are evenly spilt. YOUR DRUNK BROTHER,HeyBEERMAN 420 another proud graduate of AUSTIN's school... thanks for the sig austin  | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 01-14-2002 @ 11:25 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | i agree most with beerman...give us an even split and we WOULD spend for both ppv's each month...give us a shitty split, and one group will never get a buy from people | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 01-15-2002 @ 10:15 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | So much for the split happening the night after the Rumble.... WWF Split Possibly Delayed Until After WrestleMania Posted By Ashish on 01.15.02 It is once again appearing as if the much talked about split of the WWF has been delayed. Talk last week was that the split would occur on the January 21st edition of RAW (the day after the Royal Rumble PPV) but now it appears that it won't happen until after WrestleMania. The reason for the delay seems to be so that the WWF can properly plan for the arrivals of Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and Hulk Hogan. Those three figure to play major roles in the WWF once they do return. The Alliance wrestlers who have been off WWF TV were set to return on the 1/21 RAW but have since been told that the split could once again be delayed. The split was originally set for the January 7th edition of RAW but the WWF opted to instead center that show around HHH's return. Credit: PWTorch.com Go Knicks, Giants, Rangers, and Rutgers Men's Basketball Long Live Psycho Bitch | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 01-15-2002 @ 10:25 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | I guess I am the only one here who does not want a split. If the ratings aren't the best now, or PPV are not as good as tehy used to be and they have everybody, how will things be when they split people up. Most people are idiots ( think the What chants for every single interview that happens now), but people, myslef included, want to see Rock, Austin, HHH, Flair, Jericho, etc 2x a week. I love the WWF and have had a black box for many of the PPV's. Now that I have problems and I will have to purchase the PPV's I hate the split. Yeah there are guys who deserve time but a lot don't. WWF could do much better with their lower and midcard matchups. I personally think they should use Excess and Heat for these matches. If they put on good shows, people will watch. Don't screw the public by making them pay double for an inferior product. | ||||
| Sgt. Squeegie | posted on 01-15-2002 @ 3:06 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Nov. 00 | quote: This is not true. I have been against the split since day one. I believe that by doing this they are going to saturate the market and drive even more people away. It is a bad move both for the WWF and for any new startup companies because Wrestling will become more and more like reruns. The recaps are going to become even more huge then they are now. Excess is such a waste of a show that I'm surprised that it hasn't been yanked already in favor of a Sunday Night Heat type show. Hopefully McMahon will get his head out of his ass and realize that the WWF is heading in the direction of the XFL.  MSN Messenger: [email protected] | ||||
| Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! | posted on 01-15-2002 @ 5:11 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: How is this? They're not going to have more shows (and adding Smackdown a couple years ago was probably alot worse than this idea) and the recaps will be LESS frequent because what happened on Raw won't be recapped onm Smakcdown like it is now. And as for the weekend shows, who cares? The way this overstaurates the product is if everyone bought all the PPVs, cuz that's the only thing getting oversaturated. And, this will lead to lower buyrates, but with twice as many PPVs to get money from, they'll make more money anyway. I don't see your point. How is it oversaturation when it's the same amount of exposure of the product to the general non-paying public. It makes no sense. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO! | ||||
| Sgt. Squeegie | posted on 01-16-2002 @ 12:11 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Nov. 00 | I was referring to the adding of a Pay Per View being too much. It may mean more Money for the WWF but less money for people like me who like to see almost everybody (X-Pac and Bossman excluded) and will most likely end up buying both every month. As for the recaps, the plan for Hall, Nash, and Hogan is to reform the NWO which will be portrayed as invading both parts of the WWF so they will be on Raw and Smackdown so they will be recapping at least those segments so that everyone knows what is going on. MSN Messenger: [email protected] | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 01-16-2002 @ 2:35 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | I have been thinking a lot about this yesterday and today and have come up with what i need to do...go buy a black box if the wwf decides to put on 2 ppvs a month 8 times a year. if they do that, i will have no choice but to buy it, because i like a lot of others liek to see what is going on, and am afraid of missing the "holy shit" moments when they do happen. so if the wwf does it, they lose my $30 per month, because i will just pay $250 and get em for free... | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 01-16-2002 @ 2:48 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Skitch, that is a big problem now. I have the hack cards for Directv with the emulator for the computer and was able to see the WWF PPV's on the bar channel 592, but for about 3 weeks now, Directv manged to do something and everything is screwed up and I am unable to view it. Nevermind the hacking and illegal cable or satellite transmissions, the point is if they do the split, Have one PPV a month. Going with the original idea, Have Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam and Survivor Series as the combined PPV's. Alternate the other months between one company and the other. Say for Vince's side, keep King of the Ring, No Way Out, Backlash, and whatever, while give Ric Flair say Great American Bash, Starrcade, Halloween Havoc, etc. This will make the PPV's more special. By diluting the product and charging people twice for it, you will have a lot of backlash against the product. I can only see this decreasing PPV buys more than they are now, especially with the WWF and Directv impasse. I say forget the split. HIRE SOME GODDAMN NEW WRITERS. F. it BRING BACK RUSSO!! | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 01-16-2002 @ 6:28 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Here is Dave Scherer again, and this time, if it happens this way, i will actually like it a lot more. More News On The WWF Split, Hall, Nash, Hogan Posted By Ashish on 01.16.02 Dave Scherer is also now reporting that the WWF split has been delayed and probably will not happen until after the No Way Out PPV at the earliest. Most seem to think that the split will now happen after WrestleMania. The WWF figures that the arrivals of Kevin Nash & Scott Hall (and probably Hulk Hogan) will generate a major ratings boost and therefore the split is not needed yet. It appears that the WWF wants to get the storyline for the three established before going forward with the split. Look for the WWF to continue to work more Alliance wrestlers back onto TV. Credit: 1wrestling.com Go Knicks, Giants, Rangers, and Rutgers Men's Basketball Long Live Psycho Bitch | ||||
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