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Rich Vos is the emobdiemnt of all that is teh funney
posted on 05-06-2002 @ 11:40 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
This is starting to get retarded. I'm sick and tired of 10 different people running in, pinning somebody and then somebody else pinning them and so on. Lets have one champ, run with it for a while, see how they hold it and then go from there. Not 12 different champs in the span of 1 minutes. This crap has got to stop. It makes the whole thing a big joke.


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posted on 05-06-2002 @ 11:47 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
I thought the point of the Hardcore title was to be fun. I love trying to figure out who's going to come down next and who the next Hardcore Champ is gonna be. I think that was one of the hilights of the evening in my opinion.

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posted on 05-06-2002 @ 11:48 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Aug. 01
Gotta agree here. It gets annoying watching everyone run in every other minute and take the stupid title which doesn't seem to mean much anyhow. Let someone run with it for a while, or at least for five minutes!

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posted on 05-06-2002 @ 11:51 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: May. 02
I don't mind the multiple run-ins, but make it interesting. Like what they did in Wrestlemania. And stop letting the champ in the begining win the thing in the end.

Francine Banger
posted on 05-07-2002 @ 12:08 AM      
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Registered: Dec. 00
quote:

This is starting to get retarded



This statement would have been more accurate if it was written about 3 years ago. The WWF Hardcore Title has been a Joke for a VERY LONG TIME

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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 12:27 AM      
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The 24/7 rule has got out of hand.


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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 4:45 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
the european championship is every bit the joke the hardcore championship has become. at least in the case of the hardcore title they found an old taxi seat cover, slapped a WWE logo on it, and called it a title...using dumpster findings for a belt means garbage storylines. then there's the asinine title called the European championship which the WWE has gone to great lengths to establish as the mid-card jobber title. Between Spike Dudley and the god-awful William Regal you have two of the absolute worst wrestlers in the business today, but the WWE decides that the fans have an interest in seeing those two wastes of sperm feud??

I'm convinced that the WWE have fashioned these titles to insult their most mediocre talent. DDP was one of the most popular wrestlers in WCW. He comes to the WWF and immediately becomes a key player in the whole Invasion fiasco. Because of his age, and the fact that he's not one of the WWF's "boys," he's eventually phased out of the major storylines and ends up holding the European Title until he jobs to William Regal. Regal later jobs to Spike Dudley who jobbed to Regal last night on Raw. In the past year, aside from Dudley and Regal, the European Title has been held by such fan favorites as Hurricane Helms and Christian. Does anybody notice a pattern here?

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Sir Okonkwo
posted on 05-07-2002 @ 5:01 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
quote:

Between Spike Dudley and the god-awful William Regal you have two of the worst wrestlers ever
If ever a comment screamed of ignorance, this is it.

It has taken me a long, LONG time to understand the Spike Dudley, but his selling last night was golden. He definitely earned my respect. #130 is still a bit high, but he's far from the worst (and I say this with a mouthful of crow...).

And Regal...calling him one of the worst wrestlers ever...either you're blind, or on crack, or sniffing the crack of a blind man as he smokes crack whilst Regal is in the ring. He used the motherfucking KAWADA CRAB~! If that doesn't rule, nothing does.

Kawada wha?


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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 5:47 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
if you can give some proof of how Regal isn't a slow, lumbering, broken down old man who's best days are well behind, please post it here.

and what exactly do you appreciate about Spike Dudley? does being a good jobber make a great wrestler?

give me a break.




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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 6:46 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
quote:

if you can give some proof of how Regal isn't a slow, lumbering, broken down old man who's best days are well behind, please post it here.
Well, Regal is younger than Hogan, UT, Austin, Hall, and Nash. That should take care of the "old" with no effort.

As for slow, show me where or when speed determines whether or not someone is a quality professional wrestler. Lanny Poffo was fast too.

Lumbering...I turn the tables. If Regal is lumbering, what is Hogan, Taker, or HHH?

Broken Down - Fortunately, far from it. It appears Regal is in great shape. You don't see him on Ross' injury report now, do you?

Best days well behind him - Well, give him the chance to work a wrestling match, and you'll see why he is one of the best. Period.

You lose.



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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 8:12 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
your whole premise is asinine. first of all, comparing Regal with main eventers is ridiculous. the guy's a mid-carder at best. his heat sucks and he's a middling heel. Regal's lack of speed translates in his inability to sell matches. He's sloppy and dull to watch. The man brings zero energy and excitement to the ring. The majority of people who buy tickets to WWE (emphasis: E) events are looking for entertainment, spectacle, and showmanship, not greco-roman wrestling. When Spike Dudley has to carry your ass (as does everyone who goes against Regal), there's a serious problem.

as if this couldn't get anymore ridiculous, you compare Regal with The Undertaker (arguably the biggest star in the Raw group), HHH - nearly the WWF's most marketable wrestler, and Hulk Hogan, who basically made wrestling what it is. Comparing a mid-carder to three of the most charismatic and popular wrestlers ever just doesn't make any sense. Once again, I need to remind you that while a Kawada Crab may be cute for you to watch, it doesn't sell tickets. Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold, and The Undertaker sell out venues. William Regal does not.




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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 8:12 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
question: are you related to William Regal?



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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 8:29 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
You can thank people like Austin for Regal's seeminglly neverending push....Although he is'nt all bad, I enjoyed when he was just a commissioner.



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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 8:41 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
is Austin the one behind him then?

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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 8:55 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
Yeah, Austin and Regal are old friends



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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 12:14 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
quote:

as if this couldn't get anymore ridiculous, you compare Regal with The Undertaker (arguably the biggest star in the Raw group),



Tallest? Must be, no way you can mean he's one of the best. Now there's someone who should friggin retire.


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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 6:08 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
You say
quote:

The majority of people who buy tickets to WWE (emphasis: E) events are looking for entertainment, spectacle, and showmanship, not greco-roman wrestling.
and
quote:

you compare Regal with The Undertaker (arguably the biggest star in the Raw group), HHH - nearly the WWF's most marketable wrestler, and Hulk Hogan, who basically made wrestling what it is. Comparing a mid-carder to three of the most charismatic and popular wrestlers ever just doesn't make any sense.
and
quote:

Once again, I need to remind you that while a Kawada Crab may be cute for you to watch, it doesn't sell tickets. Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold, and The Undertaker sell out venues. William Regal does not.
to back up this point
quote:

Between Spike Dudley and the god-awful William Regal you have two of the worst wrestlers ever
and you say my premise is "asinine?"




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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 7:54 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
way to avoid the issue. I stated facts, not opinions. Hulk Hogan and co. sell tickets. they put fans in seats. William Regal doesn't. I don't care how big of a hard on you have for the stooge.

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Sir Okonkwo
posted on 05-07-2002 @ 8:13 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
Avoiding the issue? No, just pointing out your ignorance and stupidity. My point is, popularity has nothing to do with wrestling ability. Hogan and Rock are popular and have sold many tickets. That doesn't make them any better in the ring. Regal is a midcarder and draws significantly less fans than Hogan or Rock. That doesn't mean that, in the ring, he's a worse professional wrestler.

You want evidence? How about the match against Goldberg that got Regal fired from WCW. He totally schooled Goldberg and exposed him as a fraud, while carrying him to the second best match of his career in what was otherwise a throway Nitro match.

By your logic, Titanic is the greatest movie of all time, because it made the most money. But that is obviously not the case.


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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 8:30 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 02
you're missing the point here. I'm not trying to argue that Hogan is a better "wrestler" than Regal. The appeal of Hulk Hogan, and those of his ilk are at least 75% show. people are paying to see those people because they provide entertainment, not because of technical wrestling ability. Regal's a bore to watch because he's not a particularly exceptional wrestler and he has zero personality. In the case of the bigger stars, their ability to sell a ticket more than compensates for their lack of wrestling ability. Regal can't do that.

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posted on 05-07-2002 @ 8:37 PM      
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william..........regal.........ahhhhhhh......




(i like regal)


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Rich Vos is the emobdiemnt of all that is teh funney
posted on 05-07-2002 @ 10:48 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
Hey your all missing the point here.....The Hardcore Championship is a Freaking Joke Remember the topic of this discussion?


VOS IS ABOUT AS FUNNY AS GETTING A PAPERCUT ACROSS THE TIP OF YOUR MULE AND THEN DIPPING IT IN LEMON JUICE!!!!
Se7en
posted on 05-08-2002 @ 12:25 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 01
Apparently, when the WWF (yes, F) mentioned that they'd be doing more with the Hardcore belt, they meant that they'd be once again making it the collective joke of the writing committee.

As for William Regal....well, he has 1,473 strikes against him. Cause he's a WRESTLER, and you will not find many of those in the WWF. Plus they won't let him work the stiff / shoot-style (apparently the WWF thinks that uber-talented guys like American Dragon or Low-Ki are no better than backyard wrestlers), which he's so good at.

[As an aside, to show what a REAL MAN Regal is, I suggest you watch his match against Fit Finlay at WCW Uncensored 96.]

Regal's a bore to watch because he's not a particularly exceptional wrestler and he has zero personality.

THIS is one of them there ignorant statements that Sir O was referring to.

The majority of people who buy tickets to WWE (emphasis: E) events are looking for entertainment, spectacle, and showmanship, not greco-roman wrestling.

I would argue that one could run a promotion that had all of the entertainment crap AS WELL as solid wrestling. It's not as if there's some cosmic rule that dictates that wrestling and "sportz entertainment" can't coexist without the space-time continuum tearing in two. Apparently, though, Vince feels otherwise, and he knows best, doesn't he? As his ratings continue to plummet.



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Sir Okonkwo
posted on 05-08-2002 @ 5:31 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
quote:

I'm not trying to argue that Hogan is a better "wrestler" than Regal. The appeal of Hulk Hogan, and those of his ilk are at least 75% show.
I originally called you out because you said, "Between Spike Dudley and the god-awful William Regal you have two of the worst wrestlers ever." I'm not talking about appeal, not talking about "show," or how big of a star he may be. As a wrestler and judging his work in the ring wrestling, he's one of the best. As a drawing card, he isn't.
quote:

Hey your all missing the point here.....The Hardcore Championship is a Freaking Joke Remember the topic of this discussion?
Um...ok...it is. What more is there to discuss?
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apparently the WWF thinks that uber-talented guys like American Dragon or Low-Ki are no better than backyard wrestlers
I laughed out loud when I heard this. They say these things, but I've seen both guys in matches on WWF television. Pure idiocy.
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As an aside, to show what a REAL MAN Regal is, I suggest you watch his match against Fit Finlay at WCW Uncensored 96.
Good call! The match was fucking violent as hell, you could just tell that these guys loved working together and listening to the announcers go from calling the match to just marking the fuck out was really sweet. WCW at it's best, I miss it.

They also had a really good WCWSN match. It ended in a double count out, but the ring work was at the same level as the Uncensored match. Too lazy to check the date right now, but I'm sure you could find it if you don't have it already...

As a side note, Fit Finlay is currently the agent in charge of the WWF women's division. I've noticed how the women's matches have improved lately (though still nothing stellar), and Jazz is even using some of Finlay's old spots. I like it.

Holy shit, did I just praise something WWF related? I think I'm going insane.

Also, I think the Regal/Benoit match from the 2000 Pillman memorial show deserves to be mentioned in here. If ever there was a doubt as to Regal's in ring ability, this match erases it all.


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posted on 05-08-2002 @ 9:35 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 01
Good call! The match was fucking violent as hell, you could just tell that these guys loved working together and listening to the announcers go from calling the match to just marking the fuck out was really sweet. WCW at it's best, I miss it.

Absolutely. I remember renting the video for the show some time in late 96, early 97, and not really expecting too much from the match....boy was I mistaken. I was literally shocked at how brutal they were to each other. As a result, the match has always had a special place in my heart.

I saw the Saturday Night match and dug that too, but I don't have a copy of it. Damnit. I'll have to track that down eventually.

As a side note, Fit Finlay is currently the agent in charge of the WWF women's division. I've noticed how the women's matches have improved lately

Ah, that helps explain things a bit. True, the women's matches haven't been wonderful, but they have improved, and the women involved actually seem to care and be putting forth an effort, which is more than can be said from many these days.

Also, I think the Regal/Benoit match from the 2000 Pillman memorial show deserves to be mentioned in here. If ever there was a doubt as to Regal's in ring ability, this match erases it all.

I'm ashamed to say I've never gotten that tape / match. I really do need to get a copy, as I've heard that that particular match was either MOTY or at least a MOTYC.



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