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pnigga
well...I feel like an ass now
"wading in the genetic pool of vomit"
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 9:19 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
RVD is finally getting his title push and will be facing the Undertaker tonight on Raw. I doubt the WWE has the balls to have the Undertaker drop the belt tonight but at least it's a step in the right direction.

they've also started this "rumor" that Hulk Hogan will call it quits this Thursday.
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This message was edited by pnigga on 5-20-02 @ 9:23 PM
Stoned Again
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 9:25 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Feb. 02
Finally?? He's been working in the WWF..what..maybe a year? He is talented and good but I cant see how you could say he is over due on this push. There are a few wrestlers I could think of that deserve this push and are in fact over due.

Good move though, something fresh. This is the main advantage of the roster split. Now if only Beniot could hurry to smackdown and we could see a RVD/Beniot title fued.

Precious Fatman
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 9:40 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
Besides, the RVD-Taker match, setting up Bubba Ray and Brock is great to see. Finally Brock vs. someone his own size.

But I think we can stop with the Tommy Dreamer videos PLEASE!!! This is so gross!!!

---Blake
a.k.a. Fatman, Big Show

Francine Banger
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 9:48 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Dec. 00
quote:

they've also started this "rumor" that Hulk Hogan will call it quits this Thursday.



Isnt Hogan supposed to be on RAW now to take the Undertaker's spot? So much for policy.

HydratedPeach
So... how did you get your spiffy new status?
Age-Challenged Sexual Tension Relief Worker
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 9:51 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jul. 01
quote:

Isnt Hogan supposed to be on RAW now to take the Undertaker's spot? So much for policy.



Apparently we've forgotten the "Hulk Hogan can do whatever the fuck he wants" clause to that policy.


Daddy's Little Girl
I often find my opinions stick out like an erection in a lesbian bar.
WWForever
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 9:55 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: May. 02
Actually, I don't remember any "former champion takes champs spot" clause. Vince got Triple H because of the coin toss that got him a first shot at just about everything.

Speaking of which, don't look for RVD's push to go too far beyond tonight. It is Vince's turn to pick the main event for King of the Ring.

pnigga
well...I feel like an ass now
"wading in the genetic pool of vomit"
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 9:57 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
RVD is overdue because he was established as a top wrestler before he even got to the WWE. Aside from Jericho, there isn't any other "popular" wrestler with better in-ring charisma and showmanship than RVD.

And god, get rid of Regal already.


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This message was edited by pnigga on 5-20-02 @ 10:00 PM
pnigga
well...I feel like an ass now
"wading in the genetic pool of vomit"
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 10:00 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
yeah, I don't recall any clause like that either.

Either way, as long as Hogan's done as champion, I'm happy.

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HydratedPeach
So... how did you get your spiffy new status?
Age-Challenged Sexual Tension Relief Worker
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 10:00 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jul. 01
quote:

Actually, I don't remember any "former champion takes champs spot" clause. Vince got Triple H because of the coin toss that got him a first shot at just about everything.



When HHH lost the title to Hogan at the last PPV, then showed up on Raw doing a run-in, Jim Ross stated that Hunter was supposed to be on Smackdown, taking Hogan's place, and had no business being on Raw. Silly me, I thought that went for all undisputed title changes, but that's my fault for expecting logic from the WWwhatever.


Daddy's Little Girl
I often find my opinions stick out like an erection in a lesbian bar.
pnigga
well...I feel like an ass now
"wading in the genetic pool of vomit"
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 10:11 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
actually, a week or so earlier, McMahon was on Raw telling HHH that he had purchased his contract so that in the event he lost the title he'd become Smackdown property. He never said anything about former champions taking empty roster spots. But yeah, it's the WWE. Don't expect logic.

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Se7en
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 10:55 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 01
RVD is overdue because he was established as a top wrestler before he even got to the WWE.

That means absolutely dick to the WWF. If it didn't mean anything, than a guy like Booker T would be justfiably main eventing WWF events, instead of being stuck inside the awful nWo angle. If being an "established" star meant something, DDP wouldn't have had to lay down for the Undertaker's whore, Jericho wouldn't STILL be under the proverbial glass ceiling, and Lance Storm wouldn't be languishing in the hell that is Jakked / Metal.

Personally, though, I don't give a damn if RVD hasn't "paid his dues" yet - just about ANYONE would be a better champ than Hogan OR Undertaker. They need to take the belt off Taker quickly. Putting it on to RVD would be a step in the right direction (well, better than putting it back on the FuHHHrer, not as good as putting it on someone like Austin or Jericho).

And god, get rid of Regal already.

Do we have to go down this road again?



"Being a bastard WORKS."
--Spider Jerusalem
SpaceGhost
Whiny fucking bitch - just follow the sig guidelines like EVERYONE ELSE.
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 11:05 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: May. 02
sigh, right when i fucking click on the reply bitch ass Flair comes out and does that shit, yea good job wwE writers what a way to get rid of fans.
If you wanted fresh air back on RAW u give RVD the fucking title.
cock suckers.
Jack Meehoff
Teh funny blah blah absent blah blah teh blah
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 11:06 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
Something just seemed a little too familiar tonight... RVD = Benoit? Taker=Rock? Flair=Foley?

Remember what I'm talking about? Benoit beats Rock, Foley comes out and makes match continue?


In the end it doesn't even matter
May Teh Funny Be With You

 

rageparty
123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again
I also have an imaginary girlfriend.
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 11:09 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 01
I was going to start a thread with the same name as this one except it would be supporting the fact that Stone Cold is benched and we don't have to see any more of his shit. God he sucks now!

It's pretty gay that the nWo is now facing guys like the Hardy Boyz, they truly are the poison of the WWF....

Lesnar going absoluteley nowhere right now, fighting Bubba Dudley isn't going to get him anywhere. Even though it's cool seeing those 2 fight. He'll be fighting Heat matches soon.


Shit Can Happen


2002 Crack Committee Objectives:

:-P

1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year

:)

2. Hate the Braves with a passion

:confused:

3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year

:-D

4. Mets win World Series!!!

:-D

5. Have Red Sox miss the playoffs yet finish 10 games in front of the Yankees

:)
krahzee
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 11:10 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Mar. 02
quote:

sigh, right when i fucking click on the reply bitch ass Flair comes out and does that shit, yea good job wwE writers what a way to get rid of fans.
If you wanted fresh air back on RAW u give RVD the fucking title.
cock suckers.



I'd rather see him fued for the title then have his riegn be the result of a quick "fluke victory" We all saw the "impossible" reign of Jericho and how successful that was coming out of the unification match. As great a wrestler as he is, he had no real heat with a majority of wrestling fans and was viewed as a stopgap champion until HHH returned of the title.

Fueding RVD with Taker can only help to build anticipation and heat for him finally winning the belt. Let him fued with Taker for awhile, he may suck but his size alone will help put a smaller sized wrestler like RVD over as a legit title contender.



rageparty
123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again
I also have an imaginary girlfriend.
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 11:19 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 01
Vince is supposed to pick the next contender anyway... I would like RVD to have won the belt, but you know he wouldn't win it cause he is facing UnderNeverJobber. BTW, wasn't Hogan supposed to take Ter's spot on RAW? He's still on SmackDown. Odd...


Shit Can Happen


2002 Crack Committee Objectives:

:-P

1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year

:)

2. Hate the Braves with a passion

:confused:

3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year

:-D

4. Mets win World Series!!!

:-D

5. Have Red Sox miss the playoffs yet finish 10 games in front of the Yankees

:)
Jack Meehoff
Teh funny blah blah absent blah blah teh blah
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 11:28 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
Yet once again the WW(whatever the fuck they want to call themselves this week) shows that they only serve to amuse themselves. When are they going to learn that their own amusement does not equal $? Guess it is going to take another XFL type turn to maybe slam them in the heads with a couple of 2x4's and make their asses wake up to the fucking real world.


In the end it doesn't even matter
May Teh Funny Be With You

 

DonWest
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 11:36 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 01
People should just start boycotting there shows. If they were to see the ratings dip to a 2. anything for a raw or something I would HOPE they would do something to change it.

pnigga
well...I feel like an ass now
"wading in the genetic pool of vomit"
posted on 05-20-2002 @ 11:42 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
that whole angle did look pretty familiar...but who couldn't tell we were in store for some typical WWE bullshit when they cut to that classic "foot on the rope" camera angle when RVD went for the pin. typical WWE move: save the title change for a PPV when people are paying $40 a pop. at least they've taken a step in the right direction but putting RVD at the top of the heap.

to the person who made the argument against RVD being a proven wrestler, all I can say in response is that a guy like Booker has never been over with the crowd to the extent RVD is, even when Booker was winning titles with WCW. Chris Jericho enjoyed some pretty strong heat in his time but never really strong enough to hold a belt. added to which, the WWE did everything possible to make his title reign a joke by having him win every televised title defense with outside interference, countouts, dq's, etc. it's hard to put a guy over as champion when he's on the verge of losing every single title defense.



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Francine Banger
posted on 05-21-2002 @ 1:54 AM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Dec. 00
quote:

BTW, wasn't Hogan supposed to take Ter's spot on RAW? He's still on SmackDown. Odd...



BTW have you read any of this thread. This has been discussed in previous posts in this thread.

TeenWeek
what's a status?
posted on 05-21-2002 @ 9:48 AM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
Good things:
-Undertaker destroying RVD in the begining only to get his revenge after taker's speech. Good opening.
-Brock Lesnar now facing Bubba Ray
-RVD winning the title for a few seconds. Similar to Jericho beating HHH on Raw and Benoit winning it on the PPV. That match last night should and will push RVD to the next level.
-Eddie Guerrero challenging Austin
-Raven challenging Lawler and telling how out of touch he is.
-Nash saying how bad the NWO sucks
-Bulldog tribute

Bad things:
-Flair putting Austin on the bench. Stupid, who cares announcement.
-Tommy Dreamer commercials.Disgusting.
-Eddie Guerrero and Austin singing
-Booker T rejoining NWo
-Raven losing to Lawler.
-Rvd losing back the title even though I expected that to happen.

Much better but they still have a lot of work to do.




Ferret
posted on 05-21-2002 @ 11:01 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
quote:

-Eddie Guerrero challenging Austin




Thats a good thing??? They can't find anything decent for Austin to do, so he's relegated to a fake suspension (hoo hoo) and wrestling Eddie Guerrero. How the mighty have fallen.


quote:

-Nash saying how bad the NWO sucks



Wow, the WWF finally realized that just because someone is injured, they're still able to appear on tv and continue a storyline!!! About damn time. It was cool that they realized how pathetic and without direction the NWO angle is, and how Booker T wasn't getting any respect becuase Flair pretty much just put him in the group instead of the group inviting him in. Nice touch.




Thanks to Brokenjaw for the sigpic

Se7en
posted on 05-21-2002 @ 10:07 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 01
Time for a take.

Good things:
-Undertaker destroying RVD in the begining only to get his revenge after taker's speech. Good opening.
-Brock Lesnar now facing Bubba Ray
-RVD winning the title for a few seconds. Similar to Jericho beating HHH on Raw and Benoit winning it on the PPV. That match last night should and will push RVD to the next level.
-Eddie Guerrero challenging Austin
-Raven challenging Lawler and telling how out of touch he is.
-Nash saying how bad the NWO sucks
-Bulldog tribute


1. I do give them credit for making RVD look like a credible threat in the opening promo. That changed later on in the night, but it was a good move to start the night with.

2. Lesnar facing Bubba, IMO, is not really a good move. At best, it's a lateral move, since a feud with Bubba can't exactly be considered that much higher on "the ladder" than a feud with the Hardys. I feel bad for Lesnar, as it looked like he was going to be the next Goldberg, but it seems as if the focus is going to be more on his handler Heyman than upon him. I do give kudos to the WWF for 2 things: Trish selling the drama by nearly crying at the thought of getting Brocked, and Heyman selling the angle by portraying a heterosexual.

3. Fake RVD title win does nothing for me. Unless it leads to he & Taker main eventing the next PPV, with Rob going over for the title. But I'm guessing the next main event will be Taker vs. HHH again, or some crap like that.

4. An Austin / Eddie feud is a VERY good thing. See, some of you...a lot of you, I think....were ragging on Austin for sitting out for 2 weeks because he wasn't happy with the direction of the company. Of course, he was totally RIGHT (and last night's 3.7 proves it), but it's been my theory that his little feud with the abysmal nWo was his punishment. A feud with Eddie, however, is just what's needed. Austin, apparently, asked for this program personally. He's no fool; the FuHHHrer can call himself the "Cerebral Assassin" all he wants, but Austin knows enough to book himself into a program with the best worker on RAW's anemic roster.

5. The Raven shoot on Lawler was a true mark out moment for me. Levy goes out there, quotes the absolute truth to Lawler, get's Jerry so legit flustered that all he can do is flub his lines and try to make a lame joke about Raven's hair, and in a few minutes proves that he's a better color man than Lawler & Tazz COMBINED.

6. I have no love for Nash, even if he is ragging on the nWo.

7. I'm shocked they even did a Bulldog tribute. Glad they did, though. Guess they learned with the Thesz / McDaniel deaths that they need to offer a tribute early, lest they face our wrath.

Bad things:
-Flair putting Austin on the bench. Stupid, who cares announcement.
-Tommy Dreamer commercials.Disgusting.
-Eddie Guerrero and Austin singing
-Booker T rejoining NWo
-Raven losing to Lawler.
-Rvd losing back the title even though I expected that to happen.


1. Agreed. Wasted segment. If this was the blowoff to the Austin / nWo / Flair feud, it was sorely wanting.

2. I like Tommy. But the Jackass stuff won't do anything for his career. If it does, then it's time to get REALLY worried about the fans of the WWF.

3. Whenever I complain about the match time for the WWF, this is what I'm talking about. The nont-ME matches for last night's RAW averaged at about 2 to 3 minutes. The Eddie / Austin skits took up probably a good 20 minutes or MORE of TV time. Yes, we've truly moved past Attitude and Desire, it's all about Entertainment now.

4. The only positive payoff to the whole Booker T fiasco would be for him to turn face. I only hope that when he does (he should have done so already by now), the damage done to him by being in the nWo will be minimal enough for that turn to be successful.

5. Putting Lawler over anyone else, in any way, is pure insanity. I don't even care if its the guy's hometown.

6. I agree - having RVD "win" the title, only to have it stolen from him, is not only a horrible redux of the Jericho phantom title reign, but a move that probably pissed off quite a few fans. If those fans probably hadn't bailed out already before the main event.

Overall, a slightly better RAW than last week, but that's saying nothing considering how abominable last week's was. This didn't break the trend.



"Being a bastard WORKS."
--Spider Jerusalem



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