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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Untraditional KOTR | ||||
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| SonofaDEKE | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:37 PM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00  | With Regal telling Tajiri that he would be continuing on with a KOTR match on RAW it appears that the WWF is not gonna have a traditional KOTR with the winner this year only having to have win two matches instead of the traditional three. It looks like they will have the first round matches on RAW and Smackdown instead of on the PPV. I think that sucks and diminishes the title of KOTR this year. I believe that the WWF has done this before but I can't remmber what year. This is just another example of how the PPV's are only based on the main events and not on the concepts of the PPV anymore. Both the KOTR and the Surivor Series are two of the original five PPVs and I believe have kewl concepts to them, but they are being treated like the other seven formally known as In your House PPVs in that they are based on the main events and not the original concepts. The last few Survivor Series have not had any meaningful Survivor Series matches and now the KOTR only takes two wins to become king. By next year the KOTR will only have to win the final round match on the PPV so that they have more room for three main events. I just think that when you have a PPV based on the tournament you should have the tournament be the focus of the PPV. I understand having a main event for the belt also but why should they make the tournament smaller so they can add other matches? | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 06-15-2001 @ 12:28 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | You still have to win three matches to win the whole thing at the ppv DEKE. It used to be 4 matches, which was a tad too much, and diminished any main event they had for the title. 3 is more gooder than 4 Yea i be taking that zoloff, but thaz jus keepin me from killin y'all. I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum. :) | ||||
| SonofaDEKE | posted on 06-15-2001 @ 12:52 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | Ok besides looking like a tool I feel like one too. I still don't like the fact that it is "easier" to become the King this year. Ever since Austin was elivated by winning the KOTR it has turned into a mid-carder tournament. I always thought that Vince like the tournament format like at Wrestlmania IV (I hope I am right about that, don't need to look like a tool twice in one post) but needed it to be shorter since the PPV was over four hours. Now the PPV is Austin v. Beniot v. Jericho and oh yeah we are having the KOTR tournament too. Don't get me wrong I am looking forward to the mainevent but I guess I just wish the tournament was better and had main event performers in it. Still gonna smack down my money for it though. Oh and thanks for not tooling on me Cluster F for the obvious fuck up. I am off the zoloff too! | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 06-15-2001 @ 1:00 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | No problem DEKE. Everyone makes mistakes, plus i'm still on the zoloff so i'm a bit calmer than usual ;)...and you are right about the WM IV thing about 4 hours. The thing that the WWF want to focus on right now is for the tournament's winner not to be an established star, rather, someone who can be pushed to greatness. I mean, look what happened to Kurt and SCSA. At first, guys like Bret Hart won, and he didnt need to win cause he was already great, and I bet you can't name the main event from thae night Bret won, cause I know I sure can't. It is different now though. Now, I am hoping, even though I am an Angle fan, that Tajiri wins it cause that would really help him advance in the WWF. So, in other words, they are trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone; have a great main event as well as a great tournament all in one. Yea i be taking that zoloff, but thaz jus keepin me from killin y'all. I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum. :) This message was edited by Cluster F on 6-15-01 @ 1:06 AM | ||||
| SonofaDEKE | posted on 06-15-2001 @ 1:12 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | Wait a second now I am really confused. I really shouldn't post when I am drinking. It takes 4 wins to win the KOTR but you only have to win three at the PPV. But this year with the first round being the week before you only have to win two matches. Only 4 wrestlers will still be in the tournament at the PPV. So you win your first match on the PPV and you are already in the finals. Granted the winner will still have won four matches (one qualifying match and three tournament matches) but it is not like it used to be. The thing I will always remember about the KOTR was the year Austin won. Not becuase he uttered Austin 3:16 for the first time after beating Jake "The bible thumper" Roberts in the finals, but becuase he cut his mouth up bad in the first match, had to get stitches and still mananged to perform like a champion in winning. Now all someone has to do is get a win in an opening match and put on a good match in the finals. Even The Big Show could manage that. Oh shit, I hope not! | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 06-15-2001 @ 1:22 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | DEKE, im sorry man but this is the way it goes: 16 to start with, they just had qualifying matches end tonight...there are 8 guys left now who have already fought once. those 8 guys will be in the ppv. They will fight again at the ppv and narrow it down to 4 guys. Then it is 4 to 2 and then 2 to 1...which makes the winner fight 3 matches at the ppv, and 4 overall. I hope this clears stuff up...and im glad my 300th post could be this informative :) Yea i be taking that zoloff, but thaz jus keepin me from killin y'all. I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum. :) | ||||
| SonofaDEKE | posted on 06-15-2001 @ 2:54 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | No, that is the way it is suppose to be, but it is not gonna be like that this year. Regal told Tajiri that he had advanced and would wrestle the next round match on RAW. This means that the first round matches will be completed on RAW and Smackdown and that only 4 guys will be left for the PPV. That is my whole point. They are having an untraditional KOTR. Tus the topic name. They are taking the first round off the PPV and doing them the week before to make room for more non KOTR matches on the PPV. That is what is upsetting. This years king fo the ring will have to win four matches but only two of them will be at the PPV. | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 06-15-2001 @ 7:16 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Guys listen, I read this on 1 wrestling.com. Tajiri had to win his match on Smackdown to earn the right to wrestle for a chance to get in the King of the Ring. So he will wrestle his qualifying match against somebody this Monday on Raw. Than there will be 8 people at the PPV. Anyone else want to see Tajiri vs Jeff Hardy as one of the tournament matches. I know Tajiri would lose, but he would get great exposure and it would also give him his best possible opponent to get over with the fans and do the crazy things he does best.  | ||||
| BE DIALING! | posted on 06-16-2001 @ 2:38 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | Check out this weeks Ross Report. He says the first round matches will be on Raw and Smackdown this week, with the semis and final to take place at the pay-per view. This means only three total K.O.R matches at they pay-per-view. If I'm not mistaken, they did the same thing the year Billy Gunn one it, and we all know how well that turned out. I think Vince needs to take his three "novelty" pay-per view events, K.O.R, Suvivor Series, and The Rumble, and concentrate on the aspects that set them apart from the other 9 PPV's, or, any Raw or Smackdown for that matter. VIRRRRGINS PEOPLE!!! And ... A McGwire Rookie Card!  E-Mail Me | ||||
| Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! | posted on 06-16-2001 @ 6:26 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: You're like, uh, completely wrong. Here goes: KOTR 93: Three rounds at PPV- Bret Hart won 94: Three rounds - Owen Hart 95: Three rounds - Mabel. Yes, MABEL! 96: TWO rounds- Austin 97: TWO rounds- HHH 98: TWO rounds- Ken Shamrock 99: Three rounds, NOT TWO: Mr. Asshole, Billy Gunn 2000: Three rounds: Kurt Angle So, it seems the only three times they only had two rounds, TWICE the king went on to become a GOD, while the other king was a semi-flop, but not on the level of Gunn or Mabel. So, TWO ROUNDS=MORE GOODER KING. More importantly, two rounds usually equals to MORE BETTER PPV. '96 was a pretty good PPV (as good as the WWF was capable of back then) and 98 was the greatest KOTR ever. 1997 admittedly sucked, but then that great Wrestlemania 13 just happened a few months ago and the Bret-Shawn match was cancelled so what did you expect. As for the other ones with three rounds, the first KOTR PPV was ok, 94 sucked, 95 was an ABOMINATION, 99 sucked and last year's sucked. So, the only two good KOTRs ever in my opinion had two rounds. You know why? Because having guys wrestle three times makes for worse matches in the later rounds and also gaurantees 10 or so matches on the card, meaning the matches, even non-tournament ones, have to be short WHICH SUCKS! In other words, THANK GOD there are only two rounds this year as it will improve the quality of the PPV and you'll be thanking the bookers when Austin-Jericho-Benoit can go 30 minutes instead of 15 minutes if they had to have 7 matches for the damn tournament itself. Yes, I know in THEORY it's cooler if they have 8 wrestlers on the night of the PPV, but IN THEORY COMMUNISM WORKS! So, dont be fooled, two rounds is better. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO! | ||||
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