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| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 07-16-2001 @ 1:17 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00  | What do you think will happen? Some rumors floating around: -Scott Steiner will appear. -Lawler will be the new commentator even though he denied it. or who will it be? -Will Spike Dudley ask Molly to marry him? -Will Stone Cold show up or Mick Foley or even HBK? -Will any more WWF wrestlers go to WCW/ECW? I think Raw is going to be awesome tonight with the PPV on Sunday. | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 07-16-2001 @ 1:36 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | 1. If Scott Steiner appears, i will totally mark out for him. He is the man. What would be interesting is if Austin is not there tonight and still bummed, therefore Vince could bring in the backup plan, Scott Steiner. Steiner and Kurt would be a great team. Eventually, the old Stonecold could come back as a face and kick ass. That would be the best way to do that angle if Steiner shows up tonight. 2. I hope Lawler comes back, but i doubt it. Look for Al Snow to be there. 3. Who cares?? 4. I think Austin might, but i doubt if either of the other 2 will...and if Foley does, it should be interesting where he decides to go. 5. Not yet...at the ppv, maybe. Yea i be taking that zoloff, but thaz jus keepin me from killin y'all. I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum. :) This message was edited by Cluster F on 7-16-01 @ 1:41 PM | ||||
| OhHellYeah! | posted on 07-16-2001 @ 2:24 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jul. 01 | i think they should kick angle off the team and give HBK a one night only match. i know it wont happen but i will keep dreaming... Bye - Bye Jackass | ||||
| Leaking Nipples | posted on 07-16-2001 @ 10:36 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | Hell, I'd pay hella money to see HBK vs. RVD. | ||||
| spe5150 | posted on 07-16-2001 @ 11:00 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | HBK vs. RVD....now that would be a 45 minute classic! The two best wrestlers I've ever seen, talk about tearing a house down.... OK, I'm awake now, thanks for the pleasant daydream, though!  | ||||
| DevonGetTheTable | posted on 07-16-2001 @ 11:10 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | 3:16!! 3:16!! 3:16!! E.C.W.! E.C.W.! E.C.W.! E.C.W.!  GRADUATE OF THE SLACKJAW SCHOOL OF NEWBIE KNOWLEDGE! | ||||
| Spuds_Buckley | posted on 07-16-2001 @ 11:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | I'm sorry...but telling "Classie" Freddie Blassie he's about to die is borderline distasteful. I don't care that its only fiction and what not. I just think it should not have been said. Left a sour taste Kiss Me I'm Duff! This message was edited by Spuds_Buckley on 7-16-01 @ 11:13 PM | ||||
| Whackbag | posted on 07-16-2001 @ 11:14 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | We all know wrestling results are preditermined and the matches are coreographed, but... I hate that Rambo, one man against a whole army and the one man wins shit. Stone Cold is the man and all but WWF gets dominated and one guy comes in and just crushes two whole promotions. Give me a break. "You're both about to die" What the hell was that? I don't even know how to describe how that made me feel. Are you kidding me? We all know Steph is a mean heel and all, but besides the fact that telling Freddie Blassie he is gonna die being distasteful, it was just horribly written, akwardly placed, and innefective in proving any point. | ||||
| Leaking Nipples | posted on 07-16-2001 @ 11:15 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | I didn't think it was that bad. I mean, it's just wrestling. I think it's just another example of the WWF beating us over the head. OK already, Shane and Stephanie are heels. WE KNOW!!!! I swear, I'd bet they'd have those two give each and every WWF fan the finger personally if they could. Just to let us know they are supposed to be heels. Oh yeah, was I the only one to notice the Star Trek lettering for all the ECW guys when they were being introduced? I'll finish my post with this eternal truth: Stephanie is best seen and NOT heard. This message was edited by Leaking Nipples on 7-16-01 @ 11:48 PM | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 07-16-2001 @ 11:20 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | WOW sums it up for me. Invasion ppv is going to be awesome. Im gonna miss the goofy Austin, but the WWF needed him back. And Kurt kicking ass is awesome. I do agree that Stephanie is a retard with this whole dying thing. Every Customer Welcome was great. Tajiri was great too with that doublecross of Tazz. The one thing that is tough is that I want to root for ECW too. The only guy I really popped for was RVD. He is the best athlete there, at least in ECW...so much to say, i just cant wait till the ppv. I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum. :) | ||||
| Officer Joe Friday | posted on 07-16-2001 @ 11:45 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | It's just so obvious that Austin is going to turn on all of them come Invasion. It just makes sense with the Rock coming back. It does sort of subtract from the meaning of the rest of the guys but it just looks like that is the way they are going to go with this. We will see though. And RVD = most overrated wrestler. Just a big old spotfest and minimum wrestling skills. ------------------- But there's also this: there are over 5,000 men in this city, who know that being a policeman is an endless, glamourless, thankless job that's gotta be done. I know it, too, and I'm damn glad to be one of them." | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 12:02 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote: THANK YOU!!! You can't spell "overrated" without RVD. Glad someone here shares my opinion. Spot, pose, spot, pose... Concerning Raw...I liked Angle getting agressive on Raven. I thought Paul E.'s speech in the locker room was great. I'm old school, so it was nice to see Freddie Blassie. And no Big Show, Billy Gunn, or X-Pac matches... I HATED the Spike and Molly crap. The Tajiri fake swerve was unnecessary. Tajiri is awesome, yes, but what purpose did that serve? And what was up with all the overhype and hyperbole for "The OLD Stone Cold"?? Come on, we're wrestling fans, but we're not retards... And don't get me started on Stephanie and "you'll be dead soon."  | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 12:09 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: Yeah it would, if Somebody can invent a time machine and we can go back to 1995. Shawn Michaels hasnt wrestled a match in nearly 3 years. I dont think he can go. As far as RVD being overrated and just a spot fest. Bullshit. The guy is a Highlite reel. I reccomend you watch an RVD-Jerry Lynn, or RVD-Sabu, or and RVD-Lance Storm match. Or the RVD-Bigelow match when he won the TV Title, and tell me the guy isnt the whole F'n Show. He may not be able to grapple or have mat work like a Malenko or a Benoit. But the guy is a treat to watch and is worth the price of admission alone.  | ||||
| Officer Joe Friday | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 12:23 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | quote: Yeah, look at the guys you named. They carried RVD, especially Jerry Lynn. Here's a RVD match for you punch, kick, spot, punch, kick, kick, kick, spot, kick, punch, kick, kick, kick, spot, kick, kick, Vandaminator, frog splash. Whoopitydamndoo. What happened when he fought Balls on that one PPV (sorry I can't remember the name they all mish together, November to Remember maybe? 99?)? That match was atrocious. The truly great ones can get a good match out of damn near anyone. He was super over in ECW though and as I said before that's all that matters. Take him out of that scenario and I don't know how good he will be. ------------------- But there's also this: there are over 5,000 men in this city, who know that being a policeman is an endless, glamourless, thankless job that's gotta be done. I know it, too, and I'm damn glad to be one of them." | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 12:25 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | FB, different people, different tastes. Sure, RVD has impressive highspots. The problem is, he has no clue how to connect them. I've seen all the aforementioned matches, the best being the two RVD-Lynn matches and the RVD-Sabu stretcher match. But he was in there with superior workers, people who could contruct a match as opposed to a stunt show. I don't disagree that he's a great athelete, but he needs to add some WRESTLING to that athleticism, before I can take him seriously. Like I said, different people, different tastes... | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 6:55 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Well it looks like it will be Rob Van Dam vs Jeff Hardy at the PPV. That match will be awesome in my opinion. | ||||
| King f-tard | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 8:08 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | Jeff Hardy is the hardcore champ, so I think he is defending then. RVD is not the greatest technical wrestler, but he has chaisma, and he is very athletic. He can tear the house down with matches. I was never a huge fan of ecw, but I saw RVD and Jerry Lynn about 10 times, and they had some phenominal matches together. I cant wait to see him wrestle again.  | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 8:55 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | Well, RVD vs. Jeff Hardy will be a good match come sunday...much better than the first time they were in the ring together. Lets just hope that they don't screw all of this up with the titles not leaving the organizations or whatever, and have all the champs win. I would like to see it get all out of whack. Can't wait for O'Haire and Palumbo vs. APA, O'Haire is so damn scary, he is going to be a great one if he lives up to his potential... oh yeah, RVD is a great high spot guy, and can work a pretty good match. Sorry, I just don't see how you can put him down by saying that he only works well with Jerry Lynn or Lance Storm. I like Sabu, but never saw him as a great storyteller unless he was in the barbed wire or ladder matches. And Bigelow was never a great worker either, so only half of the RVD is only a highspot guy floats in my opinion. AIM: SkiT4you First Member of the JWO | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 9:05 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | I like the era of awesomeness match with Lance Storm and Mike Awesome vs Edge and Christian. The only match they are not hyping at all is Kidman vs Xpac. Kidman will defintely be the fan favorite in that match even though he is WCW. | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 10:46 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Funniest line of the night goes to Kurt Angle. "You want to talk about Extreme, I once drank milk a day after it expired." And than when raven said we will do it with ECW rules, Kurt said ECW doesn't rule, WWF rules. | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 12:35 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Ok, for one thing, Kurt Angle is the man. Finally the fans are starting to really get behind him. That whole milk thing was great. And, i am completely surprised that people are saying that RVD is overrated. I do not understand how people can see that. This guy is the most charasmatic, athletic guy there is right now. Who else is going to do that type of frog splash last night. All his matches in ECW were classics too. All of this is why he is the Whole F'n Show I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum. :) | ||||
| Whackbag | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 2:59 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | There is no way they can turn Austin against the WWF. If they do the WWF main event roster is gonna consist of Kane, Taker, Angle and Jericho. Thats it. Maybe if Rock comes back, its possible. But I still dont think stacking 5 guys against the whole WCW/ECW is good. Think about if one of those 5 would go down with an injury, WWF would be screwed. | ||||
| Officer Joe Friday | posted on 07-17-2001 @ 5:07 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | Whackbag said:quote: Well, Rock is coming back. He's already on the Summerslam posters. Personally though I'm kind of torn on what they should really do with Austin. Either they can push the fact that "sworn enemies" Rock and Austin have to team up in order to take out WCW/ECW or just give us Rock vs. Austin. The key there would be that Vince would have to beg the Rock to come back and take the WWF belt away from the turncoat Austin. Throwing Austin to WCW/ECW gives them a marquee name that they can use to maybe get a television contract. The WWF was doing pretty well without Austin and with Triple H coming back and a key push here and there they should be all set. As for your point, just look over the WCW/ECW team for Invasion. Booker T, DDP, Dudleyz, and Rhyno. That's basically the best they have to offer right now in terms of established guys. Not too impressive. I mean what really separates the Dudleyz from Edge & Christian, and the Hardy Boyz? Not much. The same goes for Rhyno. You can find numerous guys on the roster with comparable skills to him. The fact still remains that WCW/ECW lacks the "star power". And in that aspect giving them Austin makes sense. I guess we will have to wait until Invasion to see that. As for RVD, he does have some impressive spots and has a good deal of charisma but he still is overrated. People think he is like God or something and that's sad. I mean how many guys consistently blow one of their main spots (Vandaminator)? Hell he even blew it on the big Raw last week when a bunch of guys were HOLDING both Kane and the chair. That being said, RVD vs. Jeff Hardy should be an entaining match from a spot point of view. ------------------- But there's also this: there are over 5,000 men in this city, who know that being a policeman is an endless, glamourless, thankless job that's gotta be done. I know it, too, and I'm damn glad to be one of them." | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 07-18-2001 @ 2:45 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | On the subject of one Rob Van Dam: The man IS overrated. When I see people calling him one of the best ever, one of the greatest, whatever, I feel like slapping somebody. I agree, the man is a good athlete. I agree, he has impressive high spots. I agree, he has charisma. But that's where the positives end. I will say that RVD is a perfect fit in today's WWFSE. But, I could probably name at least 200 active wrestlers who I feel are better than RVD. There is SO much more to wrestling than just popping a crowd. Wrestling is a business based on suspension of disbelief and simulated combat, which in the era of "sports entertainment," seems to have been forgotten. Spot...pose...spot...pose... I'm not saying RVD is awful. Far from it. He's probably better than half the WWF roster. But saying someone's better than Bull Buchanan and Billy Gunn still isn't a compliment. If you look at every good to great RVD match, it's ALWAYS his opponent who carries him. Jerry Lynn (THE most underrated wrestler of the last 10 years, IMO) carried him to the best matches of his career. Sabu, who in the mid 90's was more than just a spot machine, brought out the best in him. Same for Bam Bam Bigelow (if you doubt his talent, rewatch his match vs. LT). Hell, same for Tazz. But put him in against Balls Mahoney or Sal E. or Rhyno, and his weaknesses are blatantly obvious. You can't spell overrated without RVD. But, again, different people have different tastes... | ||||
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