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| ste | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 2:14 PM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01  | Umm, I don't want to become the Timj of the O&A board so I figured I better post something non radio (kinda). Linkin park, papa roach etc, etc... I can't fuckin take it anymore, has metal turned pop or what(Mainstream at least)? It seems to me, the only place you can find good rock music is in the underground clubs around NY and I'm sure in a lot of other cities as well but anyway, with the exception of SOAD, RATM (Which i love musically but hate'em politicly) and maybe KoRn but since 9/11 I'm finding it hard to hear Jon Davis cry about high school bullies but in the end KoRn did start this whole groove kinda rock thing (I wont say rap because KoRn does not rap. I never got why they were known as a rap/rock group. Now of course they did songs with rappers but I don't think that makes them rap, I could be wrong). Other than these few original bands (Mainstream, MTV type), every thing else just kinda sucks. It seems no one is trying anything new or exciting except for the strokes who I'm begging to love but they would go into my underground category. I think the early 2k years needs a band like nirvana to kinda usher out all these bad pop wannabe bands like papa roach, linkin park and even limp bizket because you know once this nirvana band comes it will make Linkin park, papa roach and limp bizket look like the 80's hair bands like poison. Can't you just see yourself 10 years from now looking back on Fred Durst and saying: Jesus Christ, look at that corny (Corny? 10 years from now, it'll be something different but just go with me here) fool!!! Or maybe I'm just dreaming, I can only hope a band or a style comes along and wipes these shit bands away but that's my opinion... But c'mon, is there anybody out there (other than the normal pop seeking 15 year old who is looking at limp bizket and saying: What a great band.) that actually thinks limp or those other bands have the skill to stay around and even if they do will anyone listen... Brett Michaels has a new band you know or does he? Exactly. So like I said, Hard rock is in the dumper right now and I hope it finds a way out!!! ste This message was edited by ste on 11-25-01 @ 2:19 PM | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 2:24 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | Ikea, is that you? LOL Of course it isn't! I'm with ya on most of what ya say. Just be careful what ya wish for. You don't really want "underground" to go "mainstream" (think Nirvana), and "mainstream" (think Bon Jovi) to go "underground." That would defeat it's purpose which is what basically happened in the early 90's.  Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild
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| HyBriD FN Moron is an indian giver!! I had my cool status for about 10 min. then it was gone. GONE! G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Agent WD40 Licensed to Kill My spoon is TOO BIG. (finally) Hanger-on to the JYDs for LIFE I INVENTED ORANGE MOTHERFUCKER This status is sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥hέm | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 2:24 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 01 | why do people say music is bad if it is mainstream and on the radio? Isn't the whole point of starting a band to get your music on the radio and have as many people hear it as possible? personally i'm a fan of all the bands you named(except limp bizkit).  CEBOLLA This message was edited by HyBriD on 11-25-01 @ 2:31 PM | ||||
| ste | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 2:29 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | /////i hate people who say music is bad if it is mainstream and on the radio. Isn't the whole point of starting a band to get your music on the radio and have as many people hear it as possible?//// I think you missed the point(Yep, wide to the left)... I'm just saying that the mainstream music we're listening to now is beginning to resemble the pop 80's hair band scene, think about it!!! ste | ||||
| spitfire421 | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 2:35 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | Ste, you wanna hear stuff that will blow your mind? Stay away from the mainstream. Check out www.meteorcity.com in their all that's heavy store...look for bands like Church of Misery, Gamera, Abdullah, Nebula, Unida, etc. They have mp3's that you can play and reviews...music that's not made for the money. Hard, dirty rock is not dead, it's just hiding and you have to search it out. Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber. NEVER FORGET!!! | ||||
| HyBriD FN Moron is an indian giver!! I had my cool status for about 10 min. then it was gone. GONE! G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Agent WD40 Licensed to Kill My spoon is TOO BIG. (finally) Hanger-on to the JYDs for LIFE I INVENTED ORANGE MOTHERFUCKER This status is sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥hέm | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 2:39 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 01 | my bad, i wasnt reading carefully enough. CEBOLLA | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 2:57 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | quote: Italian Princess, is that you? Seriuosly, that was almost verbatim what IP used to say about 80's metal. "80's Metal is not dead, it's just hiding and you have to search it out." Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild
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| spitfire421 | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 3:58 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | Thank you Mr. Archivist...That's just how it is with the music I listen to, you just can't run to your local Sam Goody or whatnot and find it. Well, at least I'm into music that's made in this decade lol Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber. NEVER FORGET!!! | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 4:22 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | quote: Yea, but will people be laughing at you come the next decade? ;) Actually, she was trying to say that those Metal Bands are still around making new music, it's just not as easily accessible, like as you say, "...you just can't run to your local Sam Goody or whatnot and find it." Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild
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| kindredbabe | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 10:58 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | quote: Isn't that it, though? The music of today will become the parody of the next decade. The word disco was taboo during the 80's...and the hair bands from hell were the taboo of the 90's. Music changes constantly, new bands are forming and creating music that we will make fun of or swear we never listened to...what is popular now will be the parody of the next decade.  | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 11:32 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | oops.. This message was edited by rageparty on 11-25-01 @ 11:33 PM | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 11-25-2001 @ 11:32 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | Yeah, Rock has been crappy lately, ever since Rage lost it's front man, I am having a hard time listening to all the crap that's out there. Rock is dead for me. | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 11-26-2001 @ 12:11 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | "And the couple in the corner They're the reason why I hate rock and roll Cause rock and roll, is dead it's dead it's dead..." Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild
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| ste | posted on 11-26-2001 @ 2:30 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | Hey slash, you're obviously a gn'r fan, so what do you think of the new gnr? You know the one without the G!!! ste | ||||
| ste | posted on 11-26-2001 @ 2:30 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | Hey slash, you're obviously a gn'r fan, so what do you think of the new gnr? You know the one without the G!!! ste | ||||
| NJopposition | posted on 11-26-2001 @ 2:43 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | i dont have anything against mainstream music, its just that now most of it sucks so unbelievably bad. late 80s/early 90s GNR was a prime example of how a great heavy rock band can be in the mainstream and still make great music. faith no more is another great illustration, albeit their time in the mainstream was limited. i just have a problem with the bullshit images nowadays. the formula to make a credible popular band in the "hard rock genre" is to gather a bunch of guys who have been in the gym for all of 2 weeks, pierce & ink the hell out of them and give them blonde ceasars with chinstraps or some dredlocks for good measure. what a sick fuckin joke, heavy music wasnt supposed to be a fashion show, but i guess thats the way it is now. so, if thats the case, have the music that way with the ridiculously inflated ticket and merch prices ($60 + for the fuckin ozzfest this past year?? what the fuck is that about???) but i wont pay these people and the people that created them, so this repulsive fashion show can continue. i see my favorite bands for no more than $10-15 and pay about the same for the cds, so im set. everyone else, if this is youre thing, cool, im not here to put you down, just count me out. i gotta find the lyrics to "Faceless" again, such a great song, really makes a nice statement on the current hard rock music situation.... This message was edited by NJopposition on 11-26-01 @ 3:00 PM | ||||
| spitfire421 | posted on 11-26-2001 @ 2:46 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | That album's never gonna be released... It's doesn't count as Guns N Roses without Slash! Check this out: Unida Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber. NEVER FORGET!!! | ||||
| ste | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 8:37 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | /////That album's never gonna be released... It's doesn't count as Guns N Roses without Slash! ///// It's called "Chinese democracy"... It actually has one song on it that I like, it's called "Madagascar." I know it doesn't count as GN'R record, therefore GN'R can never truly be a great band, 4 albums just doesn't cut it, what a shame!!! ste | ||||
| spitfire421 | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 10:18 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | I know the name of the album, that doesn't mean it will ever come out:quote: I hate people who sit there all day complaining about the state of mainstream music. Simple, don't listen to it. The Internet has made it possible to easily find good music, or you can support some of your local bands, who might be the future of music. It's sad going to kick ass shows, filled with amazing musicianship, and have only 10-15 people in the bar. Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber. NEVER FORGET!!! | ||||
| heyladiladi STONER ON THE SNUKA CBH ROTISSERIE | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 10:27 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: May. 01 | quote:Yes. The worst time was, once I went to see a friend's band.. and everyone left right before they went on. He was in both bands playing that night, and they were all friends, so the first band watched the second and the second watched the first. There were like two other people not from either band there. Kinda funny, but a shame none the less. :)  | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 1:50 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | quote: Axl can take his hair plugs and shove them up his fat ass! quote: Exactly! quote: Why, thank you. :) quote: I may or may not have heard that song. I downloaded a few songs off of Napster, which seems like ages ago, and I was just disgusted. I haven't listen to them since. Maybe they were just Demos, or maybe it was the quality of the mp3. As spit was saying/predicting, "That album's never gonna be released...," so we may never know. To tell you the truth, I have heard a lot of positive propaganda on Chinese Democracy, but, how can we be sure it isn't from the label and/or the quote: I did. Pretty good stuff! Ok... Unida is fronted by vocalist John Garcia. This is all starting to be come clear now. Kyuss, pioneers of the booming underground "stoner rock" scene, formed in 1990 by vocalist John Garcia, guitarist Josh Homme, bassist Nick Oliveri and drummer Brant Bjork. The band had several releases, most notably 1992's stunning Blues for the Red Sun(eventually hailed as a landmark album by critics and fans alike) and 1994's Welcome to Sky Valley. After some in-fighting and line-up changes, probably due to the pressure of being signed to a major label(Elektra), Nick Oliveri replaced by Scott Reeder on Bass and Alfredo Hernandez replacing Brant Bjork on Drums, Kyuss eventually released Kyuss : Queens Of The Stone Age in 1997 as well as parted ways. Josh Homme, Scott Reeder and Alfredo Hernandez went on to form Queens of the Stone Age (named after their former band's farewell release), and John Garcia subsequently formed Unida. Queens of the Stone age released their eponymous debut(1998) just over three years ago on the LOOSEGROOVE label. However, they received a somewhat limited commercial success with their song The Lost Art Of Keeping A Secret(2000) from their follow up Album R, described as big on bone-dry production and having rapid-fire melodic jabs, that was released about a year and a half ago on the UNI/INTERSCOPE label, which has a suggested retail price of $12.97. John Garcia's Unida also released Unida : Coping(1999) With The Urban Coyote, described as a hard rock monster that's heavy on the songs, light on the jams, just over 2 years ago, and has a suggested retail price of $13.98. Sabbath, Steppenwolf, Blue Cheer as well as a variety of other seventies influences have been used to describe the sound of Kyuss, and the bands that they have dissolved into. At least that is what I understand from all that I read. :) Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild
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| spitfire421 | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 2:23 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | LMAO Slash :) I can't believe you looked everything up, even if you are just humoring me. Actually Reeder joined Unida with Garcia, they're supposed to have an album released this coming year but due to major label politics the band was dropped :( GRRRRRRR! Queens' Rated R was one of the best albums last year and they will be releasing another next year, with Dave Grohl playing a lot of the drums. Stoner rock (for lack of any better name) is just one big incestuous genre. Members of different bands are always jamming together, appearing on each other's albums, and doing all sorts of side projects ans supergroups...There's not really too much room for an ego. Bands influence each other and they play for the music's sake. quote: Well, it's not music for everyone, but if I can turn someone on to it who didn't even know it existed (like what happened to me about 3 yrs ago), I'm happy :) Try this Halfway to Gone They're from West Long Branch. Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber. NEVER FORGET!!! | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 2:27 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | quote: I resent that!:( I not only looked it up, pieced bits from here and there, added some of my own commentary from what I knew of Queens of the Stone Age, and connected it all together, I had to do it TWICE!. I was just about to post and the Gahh Damm Internet Explorer created erors and crashed, and it wouldn't allow the copy(paste) function to work, so I lost it ALL ARGHHHHHH!! OK, I am better:) Actually, I looked up to see if Unida had an actual release, saw the Kyuss connection, and was like, "Ok, here we go again." So I decided to look up Kyuss, and the bands that become of Kyuss, to understand the history. And for that you reply with, "LMAO"? I see how you are now;) P.S. It is "humoUring" NOT "humoring." Well, unless ya want the limey mad at ya, lol quote: Does that mean that Reeder quit Queens of the Stone Age?" Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild
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| spitfire421 | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 2:47 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: I mean I was happy you took the time to look it up! You're enigmatic nature always makes me think twice about the underlying reasons for some of your posts, but I still luv ya :) Reeder wasn't in QOTSA (Nick Oliveri plays bass) he took a 4-year hiatus after Kyuss was done. Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber. NEVER FORGET!!! This message was edited by spitfire421 on 11-27-01 @ 2:54 PM | ||||
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans) | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 2:55 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | quote: And that's the way I like it :). But, with some things, like with music, don't think twice, it's all right ;) quote: From an AMG biography of Kyuss, I read this - "Homme, Reeder and Hernandez re-appeared as Queens of the Stone Age in 1998, and Garcia is currently a member of Unida." So, I guess it's true, you can't believe everything you read, even if it is from a reliable source. I never double checked it when I read the Queens of the Ston Age info (band line-up). I guess AMG can't even keep up with the "incestousnicity" of the "stoner rock" bands. Thanks for clearing that up. The legions of "stoner rock" fans, on the board, may have lost sleep over it ;) Kiiiddiinng! Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild
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