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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: ITS OFFICIAL.... Lindros is a Ranger (conferance Monday to announce it) | ||||
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| BaLLooN NoT | posted on 08-18-2001 @ 7:16 AM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00  | Rangers reportedly will announce trade Monday -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ESPN.com news services The Flyers and Rangers have finalized a deal that sends Eric Lindros to the New York Rangers. According to TSN of Canada, the NHL approved the deal late Friday and the Rangers are expected to announce the trade with Mark Messier at a news conference Monday. Earlier in the day, Flyers general manager Bob Clarke lifted the Friday deadline for the Rangers to sign Lindros, and said he expected the a deal to be completed by Monday. The Rangers and Flyers have agreed on the players involved in the deal. Carl Lindros, Eric's father and agent, and New York general manager Glen Sather also have agreed on a contract worth about $37 million over four years. "There are just minor details left before it's done," a Rangers source said of the trade. "It's just dotting the i's and crossing the t's. Nothing it appears will stand in the way." The final sticking point -- getting insurance on the contract -- was solved Friday, a source close to the negotiations told The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity. TSN reports that if Lindros suffers a concussion during the 2001-02 season, he will not be insured for the first year. Lindros hasn't played since May 26, 2000, after a check from New Jersey's Scott Stevens in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals gave him his sixth concussion in 27 months. Lindros took a physical in New York on Thursday and was to go to Montreal to see another neurologist on Friday. He saw Dr. James Kelly in Chicago on Wednesday. Clarke said Lindros has passed all his exams. The Rangers will send forward Jan Hlavac, defenseman Kim Johnsson, young forward Pavel Brendl and a middle-round draft pick to Philadelphia for Lindros. The Flyers also give the Rangers a conditional first-round draft pick if Lindros fails to play a certain number of games. Lindros, 28, sat out last season after rejecting an $8.5 million qualifying offer from the Flyers. He refused to return to the team because of a contentious relationship with Clarke. Once he was cleared to resume skating last November, Lindros said he only would play for his hometown Toronto Maple Leafs. Days before the trade deadline in March, Lindros added St. Louis, Detroit and Washington to his list. He added the Rangers to the list last month. Clarke has said he doesn't care if Lindros ever plays again, and was willing to let him sit until he became an unrestricted free agent in 2004. But this deal was too good to pass up for the Flyers. The Rangers, shut out in free agency this summer, have long desired Lindros. New York actually traded for the star center nine years ago, but the deal was voided by an arbitrator. After Lindros refused to play for the Quebec Nordiques, who had made him the No. 1 overall pick in the 1991 entry draft, both the Flyers and Rangers claimed to have made a deal to acquire him in 1992. The NHL appointed an independent arbitrator, Toronto lawyer Larry Bertuzzi, to decide the issue and he awarded Lindros to Philadelphia. In eight injury-filled seasons with the Flyers, Lindros had 290 goals and 369 assists. He made six All-Star teams and won the MVP award in 1995, but Philadelphia lost its only Stanley Cup final with him.  E-Mail = E-Mail Me AIM = OABaLLooNNoT | ||||
| Goat Pupil | posted on 08-18-2001 @ 1:47 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01 | O man, leave it up to the rangers to make possibly the worst deal in sports history. What are they turning into the knicks? | ||||
| Lent Black Rock Coalition Do you have a basketball in your car? | posted on 08-18-2001 @ 2:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: May. 00 | Will he leave the conference in a strecher after he puts his Ranger jersey on? --Lent, the poster formerly known as Rowelentless-- LET'S GO RED STORM! | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 08-18-2001 @ 9:34 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Well, this better at least bring Hull to the Rangers now. Im pissed about the whole offseason, but i'll deal with it for now. Maybe Lindros will surprise us. LOL | ||||
| BaLLooN NoT | posted on 08-18-2001 @ 9:38 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: & do what wait till the all star break to get hurt & end his career??? LOL E-Mail = E-Mail Me AIM = OABaLLooNNoT | ||||
| Spork | posted on 08-18-2001 @ 11:06 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Don't be so sure that Hull is going to sign with the Rangers. If the Rangers ARE interested in Hull their behavior to this point has been a little interesting to say the least. It's between the Canadiens and the Rangers, and I think the Habs have the jump on this one. Check out these snippits from various Canadian media: quote: And for a little more insight: quote: Can the Rangers afford another $6.5 million a year for Hull? The Canadiens are at least trying, which as a fan is nice to see. With the owner, the GM and assistant-coach calling him up and coaxing him personally while Sather doesn't make an offer... I dunno. I think Hull's either going to the Rangers or the Canadiens, that much seems relatively certain.  "Look how hot they're getting. And that's an old picture," Anthony says. | ||||
| BaLLooN NoT | posted on 08-19-2001 @ 10:38 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | another report from ESPN is that lindros is not just a pussy but he is a child who can't ,make up his own decision.... here is the story: Lindros needs to get away from his parents -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Adrian Wojnarowski Special to ESPN.com "Can the boy talk for himself?" Angelo Bumbacco finally blurted, the time passing in the Lindros living room without a word out of the 16-year-old the general manager of the Sault St. Marie Greyhounds was determined to pick No. 1 in the Ontario Hockey League draft. He could've changed Eric Lindros' life. All these years, Angelo Bumbacco has never stopped believing it. Twelve years ago, he could've rescued him. "Looking back, the greatest thing that could ever happened to Eric Lindros was coming to play in Sault St. Marie, just to get the hell away from those parents," Bumbacco said the other day. "It would've been like when you send a kid away to university to give him a chance a chance to grow up. I'll tell you: That kid has never grown up." As pain-in-the-ass parents go, the Lindros are first-team All-World, riding shotgun with Richard Williams into infamy. Even now, they're overbearing, intrusive and just too obsessed with controlling the son's career that just can't be controlled. As the Flyers trade of Lindros to the Rangers is completed on Monday, and the old man/agent has completed his contract negotiations with GM Glen Sather, here's a little advice for Carl and Bonnie on their son's entrance into New York: Stay in Toronto, order a satellite dish and get a life of your own. As Lindros prepares for his seventh concussion, he's had his share of headaches born out of his parents' ridiculous antics. Lifting his career and the Rangers out of dire straits will be hard enough, without the Great and Mrs. Santini reaching out to Sather and instructing him on the linemates to use alongside little Eric. The ones, you know, that pass him the puck. Reportedly, the parents kept charts on who regularly passed the puck to him in Philadelphia, and who didn't. Bumbacco never forgot his journey into the heart of hockey darkness -- the Lindros living room -- to recruit him to his small town team in the remote northern part of Ontario. Years earlier, Walter Gretzky was uneasy about sending his son, Wayne, to Sault Ste. Marie, but he listened to Bumbacco's pitch, made a trip to the minor league town and discovered it was perfect for Wayne. Either way, Bumbacco made a pact with Walter that he was willing to make with the Lindros: If your kid isn't comfortable here, I'll trade him closer to home. "All the mother is doing is talking and talking, telling us no way he's going to go where he's drafted..." Bumbacco said. "Well, we had been in the house for a half hour already, the mother is very cold and I finally say, 'It would be nice if someone could offer us a cup of coffee.' Regretfully, she did. "Anyway, she tells me she's going to decide where her son plays. I told her, 'I learned a long time ago, you go where you're wanted.' So, she gives me a tongue-lashing, the brother gives me a tongue-lashing, Eric gives me a tongue-lashing and I left the house." Weeks later, as promised, he called the family on the eve of the draft and told them that, indeed, he was using the No. 1 pick on Eric. They threatened to send him to university, refusing to report, and he had a good laugh. He remembered the kid's transcript. In his mind, they weren't sending him to university. "She called me every name in the book and she hung up," Bumbacco said. "The next day, we drafted him and the father came right up to the podium, and he called me every name in the book, too. Even now, they're pulling the same horse---- they pulled with me, that they pulled with Quebec. Sooner or later, you've got to go play where you're wanted. They started this horsebleep with me, but you can't dictate all your life where you're going to go, or where you're going to play." Twelve years ago, Bumbacco traded his holdout No. 1 pick to the family's choice, the Oshawa Generals of the OHL, for three players and $80,000 Canadian. In 1991, the Quebec Nordiques selected Lindros No. 1 in the NHL Draft. Bonnie Lindros warned the Nordiques, too, but they drafted him anyway. Quebec traded him to Philadelphia in 1992 for several players, picks and $15 million. The Nordiques turned into the Colorado Avalanche, and armed with those prospects, won a Stanley Cup four years later. As history's witnessed, the happy endings with Lindros come on the back end of trading him; wishing him goodbye, not hello. He's a magnificent talent, but the six concussions make him a legitimate liability for the Rangers now. They've traded top young talent for a player who, the next hit he takes, could end his career. No doctor worth his degree will clear him to play again after his seventh concussion, will they? Well, he's on his way to the Rangers now, and everything's on Sather now. "I'll tell you," Bumbacco said, "I don't think Slats is going to put up with that horsebleep of the Lindros family." On his way into New York, Eric ought to do everyone a favor -- his new GM, coach and, most of all, himself -- and tell the parents to stay out of harm's way with him. He's 28 years old. Enough already. E-Mail = E-Mail Me AIM = OABaLLooNNoT | ||||
| Psycho Bitch | posted on 08-19-2001 @ 11:18 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jul. 01 | quote: DUH!!! Where's that Captain Obvious guy when you need him? ;) Us Flyer fans have known this for years Lindros actually wrote an autobiography a few years back (Well he had help but believe it or not is is a very intelligent man, he had already graduated high school and was taking college courses at 16) Anyway, in the book he talks about the Soo. They had drafted him and apparently Bonnie and Carl didn't want him to go because they wanted him to finish school. Was there more to it than that? Probably, but we'll never know. I can't blame them for wanting him to get a proper education but those people have gotten way out of hand. I'm suprised they didn't move down to NJ and live with him while he was a Flyer so they could watch him!! It's funny but they don't seem to be this overbearing when it comes to Brett.. He also mentions the Quebec Nordique incident. There was a lot more to the story than most people know. Apparently the Nordiques were pretty much in the middle of the standings when it was announced Lindros would be eligble for the draft. Reportedly Marcel Abut, the GM for Quebec at the time, wanted Lindros so bad that he traded away all of his veterans and talented players to assure they would finish last. Well, he accomplished it but then San Jose had just been entered into the league and according to league rules at the time expansion teams always get the first pick. No one knows how Abut actually ended up with the first pick but he did. The Lindros family was appalled at the entire organization for what they did to get thaat pick and that's why thy refused to let him play. Again they may have been right at the time but the guy in the article is right, you don't pick where you play, you go where you're wanted. Not even Gretzky pulled this shit when he was younger. That boy really needs to bitch slap both his parents and send them packing. Fire daddy and tell mommy to shut the fuck up already! This guy's been through enough. Because of them this kid has been getting nasty mail and death threats since he was about 14. I guess he feels he has no choice but hopefully one day he'll go postal and shoot them or something :P  "I am insane and you are my insanity" This message was edited by Psycho Bitch on 8-19-01 @ 11:20 AM | ||||
| Spork | posted on 08-19-2001 @ 4:11 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Well, as it turns out you have to ask yourself if he really is all that intelligent, especially in terms of book-smarts. Bonnie threatened to have him play for a University team (which would be very odd in Canada - VERY VERY FEW Canadian university players ever make it to the NHL (the number can be counted on like one hand). Maybe he could have gone to an NCAA school in the U.S. and that's what she was referencing, but the funniest part is that the Soo coach looked at the transcript and realized that there's no way he could have been accepted into University. (In Canada there are NO sports scholarships - only academic. And the admission standards are much higher than they are for US schools, so if you want to play a sport you have to be a B-level or better student in highschool). This would lead me to believe that Lindros had none of this. One thing I've read since that might give a little bit of hope to the Ranger fans out there is that Eric has been practicing skating with his head up and has been strengthening his neck and shoulder muscles. Still though, his head should be jello be about game number 35 or so. "Look how hot they're getting. And that's an old picture," Anthony says. | ||||
| Raven Portugal | posted on 08-20-2001 @ 4:37 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 |  still not happy with this trade but I'll STILL always be a NYR fan  if need E-Mail Me I have always been on the outside looking in and I have always prevailed. I will wage a war that will leave men broken and battered. Many perceive me as having no hope my victory will be an upset. But hope and perception have never ruled my life. Quote the Raven, nevermore." This message was edited by Raven on 8-20-01 @ 5:25 PM | ||||
| Psycho Bitch | posted on 08-20-2001 @ 4:52 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jul. 01 | quote: Well it's about damn time. Honestly I do hope he does well for the Rangers. I hope he finally does live up to the expectations...it'll really piss Booby off and I may be a Flyers fan but I love it when Booby looks stupid :) I'm just glad this stupid soap opera is over with... "I am insane and you are my insanity" | ||||
| Raven Portugal | posted on 08-20-2001 @ 5:33 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 |  This didn't take long did it????if need E-Mail Me I have always been on the outside looking in and I have always prevailed. I will wage a war that will leave men broken and battered. Many perceive me as having no hope my victory will be an upset. But hope and perception have never ruled my life. Quote the Raven, nevermore." | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 08-20-2001 @ 6:19 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | im going to be optimistic about my boys here. Lindros has had enough time off where he really could have recovered from the concussions. Plus, he has been practicing with his head up. He is easily a top 5 center in the league when he is on his game. In addition, we will get Hull. The possibilities for the center and wing positions for all the lines will be like a hall of fame highlight reel. At least this gives us fans a reason to go to the games. The negatives: we have no defense and a banged up goalie. But, i am going to change my opinion on Lindros and i am excited about him coming to the Rangers. | ||||
| Raven Portugal | posted on 08-20-2001 @ 10:19 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 |     he looks ok in Blue -- lets see the 1st hit if need E-Mail Me I have always been on the outside looking in and I have always prevailed. I will wage a war that will leave men broken and battered. Many perceive me as having no hope my victory will be an upset. But hope and perception have never ruled my life. Quote the Raven, nevermore." | ||||
| Raven Portugal | posted on 08-20-2001 @ 10:25 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 |         if need E-Mail Me I have always been on the outside looking in and I have always prevailed. I will wage a war that will leave men broken and battered. Many perceive me as having no hope my victory will be an upset. But hope and perception have never ruled my life. Quote the Raven, nevermore." This message was edited by Raven on 8-22-01 @ 11:45 PM | ||||
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