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| NASA | posted on 12-13-2001 @ 9:58 PM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 01  | I'm sure most of you have heard about it by now. Dan Issel, the head coach of the Denver Nuggets, was suspended for four games for a derogatory slur to a hispanic fan. He apologized and broke down at a press conference (either yesterday or today) but only now it gets interesting. For saying, "Hey, go buy another beer! Go drink another beer, you fucking Mexican piece of shit," hispanic "groups" are threatening to boycott Nuggets games. I think that when fans buy (or have) tickets, they're allowed to do anything they want short of causing a disturbance and maybe cussing in front of children, but this is ridiculous: Hispanic Groups Boycott Nuggets DENVER (AP) - Hispanic groups launched a boycott Thursday of the Denver Nuggets, demanding Dan Issel be replaced as coach after he shouted an insensitive ethnic remark and a profanity at a fan in the crowd. The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, which had distributed Nuggets tickets to some of its member businesses, said more than 100 of the tickets had been returned. The chamber said it would give these tickets back to the corporation that had donated them in the first place. The chamber said its members would boycott the Nuggets' games until Issel was fired. "He stopped and looked up and he saw that he was looking at a Mexican," chamber member Veronica Barela said. "Then he referred to him in a derogatory way. In my opinion that came from his heart." The Washington-based League of United Latin American Citizens said Issel should resign. The actions came amid debate over whether Issel's four-game suspension by the team was enough or if he should be fired. Radio talk shows were filled with callers who expressed strong opinions on each sides, and the Rocky Mountain News published an editorial that said Issel deserved a stronger punishment but did not call for his resignation. The newspaper also suggested he reassess his stint with the team. As Issel walked off the court after a 99-96 loss to the Charlotte Hornets on Tuesday night, he became involved in a shouting match with a fan. Issel yelled: "Go drink another beer, you Mexican ...," adding an expletive at the end of the sentence. Issel apologized to the team, the community and the fan. He was suspended without pay for four games, costing him more than $112,000. Bobby Bowman, 23, of Thornton, Colo., has said he was the target of Issel's comments. Described in local media as Hispanic, Bowman said the coach should not be fired for his remark but should resign because of the team's poor record. Assistant coach Mike Evans led the Nuggets' practice as the team prepared for Thursday's home game against Memphis. He said Issel was distraught about the situation. "I know what happened and the effects it's had on the Hispanic community," Evans said. "Look, I grew up in the South in the '60s and I know what people are feeling out there. "I feel for Dan because he is my friend and I am not going to address the situation with Dan any more." The players voiced support. "Everyone in the locker room knows Dan the man and he is not a racist," forward George McCloud said. "It was a situation where his emotions were running, frustrated by the fact we are losing." Nuggets spokesman Tommy Sheppard said team officials planned to meet with the Hispanic chamber on Friday, adding the angry messages and reaction so far do not reflect the mood of the town. "Right now our aim is to meet with leaders in the Hispanic community and see how we can reach out and make this a better city," he said. Issel's remark was the second controversy to hit the team in the last week. Coming off a five-game losing streak, the 7-14 Nuggets were already dealing with the demand of their leading scorer, Nick Van Exel, to be traded. What is everyone else's opinion on the matter? I'm sure that we've all thought something similar to what Issel said many times or maybe even said it in a fit of rage. But now because he got caught saying something off-color the Nuggets might fold under the pressure and it's wrong.  GodBlessAmerica. | ||||
| Lent Black Rock Coalition Do you have a basketball in your car? | posted on 12-13-2001 @ 10:08 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: May. 00 | The guy friggin broke down in a press conference. They should keep him on board and give the fan a pair of season tickets. (People actually pay to see the Denver Nuggets? At least they draw more than the first place Nets..anyway) That way every one is happy. But then again they should feel the wrath of the "Hispanic groups", as you may or may not know they are a powerful buying bloc. For the Nuggets organization not to at least have some discussions with them would make a boycott more likely.  - AIM:roweLENTless2001 | ||||
| Brundlefly | posted on 12-13-2001 @ 10:50 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Oct. 01 | This pisses me off. What is so racially insensitive about calling a Mexican a "Mexican piece of shit"? He was stating that the guy was Mexican. It just so happens the guy was a piece of shit. If the fan that bothered him was Irish, he would have called him an "Irish piece of shit". I think he just wanted to make sure the right guy got the message. It was not racially motivated. Seriously, I don't think this guy is a racist. This is something that always gets blown out of proportion. He called a guy a piece of shit. Life should go on, but it doesn't, they always have to bring race into it. If the guy was Mexican than he was actually right about one part of his insult. Or maybe I'm the insensitive one.  Norton: Patty has the sex appeal of Brundlefly.I <3 the Froy | ||||
| short hills mall | posted on 12-13-2001 @ 11:05 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | Society is so fucked up that we have become ultra sensitive to every little comment. Who cares. 
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| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 12-14-2001 @ 12:00 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | So Issel calls a fan Mexican, and some Hispanic groups get offended at that? I don't know, I think there are worse things to be called than "Mexican", and the fact that the League of United Latin American Citizens considers it to be an insult, shows that they must not think very highly of themselves. Personally, if I were Mexican, I'd be offended by the LoULAC for thinking so lowly of my nationality. | ||||
| Lent Black Rock Coalition Do you have a basketball in your car? | posted on 12-14-2001 @ 12:25 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: May. 00 | quote: Well we live in a world that is very diverse. Shit is bound to happen. What you may think sounds harmless might be offensive to someone else. It's a perception thing. Its like when you have o&a at work. We the fans "get it", the guy who transfered in to help you with your assignment at work from another department may not. When I get the chance I listen to o&a at my part time job. The place I work at has a very high concenrtation of middle eastern and asian people. (Software company) If the boys are doing a bit mocking muslim or asian people and if I see one of those people walking by, I'd better turn off the radio or I'll get fired. Although Dan Issel's situation is different, he's offered an apology. Does anyone remember the slave commennt the Miami Heat broacaster made a while ago and then he had to apologize? When it's all said and done, everyone will play nicey nice. And it will all be forgotten...hopefully. - AIM:roweLENTless2001 | ||||
...And now the battle between us and them has begun. JYD-4-LIFE. | posted on 12-14-2001 @ 1:54 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: May. 00 | quote: So how did JMB get all the way to Denver anyway?  I don't have a heart of gold and I don't grow one later, OK? But relax. There's other people a lot nicer coming up -- we call them losers. | ||||
| Ferret | posted on 12-14-2001 @ 2:54 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Everyone boycotts the Nuggets, it's just usually cause they suck. quote: Seriously, just move on with life, no one cares because he put the word "Mexican" in a sentence with a curse.  | ||||
| Jim Samsonite | posted on 12-15-2001 @ 2:20 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Nov. 01 | Jason Williams said far worse to an asian fan in Sacramento last year, and got away with a slap on the wrist. I don't even think he was supsended, probably just fined. I understand that Issle is in a leadership position and should be dealt with accordingly, but anything more than 4 games would be hypocritical on the part of the NBA. | ||||
| NASA | posted on 12-26-2001 @ 8:56 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 01 | quote:But being a coach limits his ability to do controversial things, and as such, Dan Issel resigned today as coach of the Nuggets. And as always, they give some bullshit reasons at the press conferences: I think that he really believed that after a lot of soul searching, that perhaps coaching wasn't for him," Vandeweghe said at a news conference. "Dan kind of came to terms with some things in his own life. And really, you know, as long as I've known Dan, he's always done, really, what's best for the organization," he said. "I think the bottom line was, he wasn't happy, he wasn't happy coaching. That's the real reason," said center Raef LaFrentz, who has sometimes clashed with Issel. Oh well. Everyone enjoys making fun of mexicans. He should have been praised not reprimanded.  GodBlessAmerica. New York State Twatto -- "Hey, you never know." | ||||
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