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| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 7:42 AM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00  | Did anyone see this? I have the Directv football package and was watching it and was amazed at was happening. For those who don't know, Cleveland looked like they completed a pass on a 4th and 2 for a first down. Tim Couch hurried up and threw the ball into the ground to stop the clock and the nearest linesman waved the pass incomplete. All of a sudden the refs say they blew the whistle before Couch got off the play and the play was being reviewed upstairs. They replayed and there was absolutely no whistle and the linesman said the next play by Couch was good. They changed the 4th down completion to an incompletion and gave the jaguars the ball. Than all hell broke loose in the stands. People were throwing hundreds of plastic bottles of beer, many full at the field. They were throwing anything and everything they could find. Someone sitting near the field got their head cracked open from a bottle. The refs and the players were getting bombed with the bottles. The refs called the game with 48 seconds left. The announcers than said Tagliubue called and said they must finish the game so they had to come out and finish it. I heard Cleveland had to use some offensive players on their defense because guys were undressed already. This was a major game for Cleveland as they would have still been in the race for a Wild Card spot, now they are all but eliminated. Crazy ending.  | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 8:44 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | here is the article. What I boldfaced is the most remarkable. How fucking stupid is this organization. This incident was a huge disgrace to the league and many people could have been hurt. CLEVELAND (AP) -- Standing near midfield, players and officials watched as enraged Browns fans rained beer bottles, cups and debris down on them. Then the Jacksonville Jaguars ran -- scared. "We feared for our lives," wide receiver Jimmy Smith said. "It was like dodging bullets." Cleveland fans threw thousands of bottles on the field Sunday, striking the Jaguars and Browns and forcing them to run for cover after officials overturned a last-minute call that helped Jacksonville win 15-10. The game was stopped for about a half-hour with 48 seconds to play because of the violence, and it resumed only after commissioner Paul Tagliabue insisted. Most of the bottles were plastic, but many were filled with beer, making them dangerous weapons. A few fans tried to run on the field but were quickly caught by security personnel. "They were throwing stuff on our sideline, but they were throwing it on their side, too," Jaguars wide receiver Kennan McCardell said. The Jaguars and Browns had to dodge flying objects as they sprinted to their locker rooms, and the officials were doused with beer and cups of ice as they sprinted for safety. "I was definitely looking over my shoulder for bottles flying," Browns quarterback Tim Couch said. Cleveland's 2001 home season finale dissolved into another embarrassing chapter for Browns fans. In 1995, fans tore out rows of seats and started small fires in the finale of the old Cleveland Stadium just weeks after it was announced the team was moving to Baltimore. "In '95 we had chairs coming out of the stands," said McCardell, who played for the Browns then. "I never thought I would see it again." Players on both teams were hit but nobody was seriously hurt. Police made arrests but exact numbers were not immediately released. Browns president Carmen Policy refused to criticize the fans, and owner Al Lerner went as far as to excuse the rowdiness. "I don't think Cleveland will take a black eye from this," Policy said. "I like the fact that our fans care." Lerner said: "I think everyone controlled themselves considering they spent 60 minutes out in cold weather. It wasn't pleasant. I wouldn't suggest anything like that. But it wasn't World War III." Nearly 30 minutes after ordering players off the field, officials resumed play. Jacksonville's offense returned intact while the Browns sent three offensive players out with their defense since some players had already undressed. Jacksonville's players re-entered and left the field through the Browns' tunnel to avoid being hit again. "I'm disappointed," Browns head coach Butch Davis said. "I know the fans were upset, but our guys were getting hit along with the Jaguars and the officials. It's an unfortunate situation." The fans' ugly behavior came after the Browns had a first down at Jacksonville's 9-yard line taken away despite running a play before the officials reviewed the previous play. Under NFL rules, a challenge must be made before the next play takes place. Couch had apparently completed a fourth-and-2 pass to wide receiver Quincy Morgan with 1:08 remaining, and the Browns, who were out of timeouts, quickly rushed to the line of scrimmage. On first down, Couch spiked the ball with 48 seconds to go, and was headed to the sideline when the officials began to discuss Morgan's catch. After several confusing minutes, referee Terry McAulay announced that the officials were reviewing the play. When McAulay finally emerged from the TV review monitor, he announced that Morgan did not catch the ball. Replays appeared to show that Morgan never had possession and was bobbling the ball as he fell to the ground. Under the NFL's replay system, coaches can't challenge calls in the final two minutes of a half. Any questionable rulings are reviewed by replay officials, who must notify the game referee wearing a buzzer on his belt. McAulay said he was notified by replay official Bill Reynolds, who said he was "absolutely, 100 percent" sure he buzzed McAulay before the next play began. "At the point, we had a legal review," McAulay said. Mike Pereira, the NFL's director of officiating, said the procedure used on the field was correct. As Cleveland's bench erupted in protest, Browns fans in the "Dawg Pound" bleacher section closest to the play began hurling bottles and other objects. The Jaguars moved away from their bench to avoid getting hit, and before the fans got rowdier, McAulay announced the game was over. But while both teams were in the locker room, Tagliabue called game supervisor Dick McKenzie and ordered him to have the final 48 seconds played. "I was on my way to the shower," Jacksonville quarterback Mark Brunell said. "The commissioner called and I had to get dressed and do what the boss says." About 5,000 fans were still in the stadium to see Brunell take two snaps and run out the clock. The Jaguars were then escorted off the field, surrounded by Browns players, Cleveland police and security personnel. This wasn't the first time Cleveland fans were out of control. In 1974, the Cleveland Indians forfeited a game to the Texas Rangers when fans stormed the field on "10-Cent Beer Night." Each coach gets two challenges per game on plays involving possession, forward progress or boundaries, such as the out-of-bounds line and goal line. The coach loses a timeout if his challenge is not successful. In the final two minutes of each half, the challenge comes only from a replay official in a booth above the field who buzzes the referee on the field. The signal for a challenge must be made before the next play takes place. The coaches also have buzzers and a red flag for their challenges. (If the buzzer doesn't work, they throw the flag.) -- The Associated Press | ||||
| nj_voodoo | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 10:24 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | it was a very odd scene... This message was edited by nj_voodoo on 12-17-01 @ 10:25 AM | ||||
...And now the battle between us and them has begun. JYD-4-LIFE. | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 11:56 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: May. 00 | hope this works. What do you think is going to happen to this guy?  I don't have a heart of gold and I don't grow one later, OK? But relax. There's other people a lot nicer coming up -- we call them losers. | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 12:37 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Here is a good picture of what was going on:  This message was edited by TeenWeek on 12-17-01 @ 12:40 PM | ||||
| Lent Black Rock Coalition Do you have a basketball in your car? | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 2:50 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: May. 00 | some people are gonna lose their season tickets. this reminds me of the snowball incident at the giants game back in 94'. Dumb for the fans to do that shit, and dumb for the owners condoning it.  - AIM:roweLENTless2001 | ||||
| NASA | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 5:04 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 01 |  These dickheads should all be arrested, how dare they do such a thing. On a lighter note, the SportsGuys (mornings!) actually said something funny today! They said this situation would make a good commercial for Bud Light plastic bottles like the one with that klutz that always broke his glass bottle. The ref's would have bottles bouncing off their heads and say to each other, "aren't you glad this isn't glass?"  GodBlessAmerica. | ||||
| RonRon5477 | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 5:15 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01 | Does anyone know where to find the video film of this?? I would love to see this. The refs did not do the right thing. They stopped the play dead AFTER the next play had been started. Hey, if you can't blow the whistle fast enough, too bad! Shane Falco in The Replacement on the last play of the game: "I wish I could say something classy and inspirational, but that just wouldn't be our style. Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever." Want to use the O&A EZPass lane? here's how (only for NY listeners, sorry to everyone else): The URL is: "http://oarule.homestead.com/files/OA"+previous phone screener before Stinky+previous phone screener's girlfriend's name+".html" AIM: RonRon5477 | ||||
| slackjaw The Cunt-Twat is my WORLD! The Great Pumpkin | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 7:09 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | What's truly amazing, and shows the naivety of the organization is the fact that glass bottles were available at all. There are very few arenas where you can have glass bottles, usually if the stadium sells bottled beer, it is poured into a plastic cup. Not to mention, that most stadiums stop selling beer after the half, end of the third quarter at the latest. As bad as the snowball game seemed, at least people could claim that they didn't think the snow could cause any damage. A beer bottle thrown with average force could seriously injure a healthy middle aged man, and with the age of the average NFL referee, it is purs luck someone wasn't killed. This is a disgrace, and coming from someone who grew up going to Eagles games, that says a lot.  Fuck Gonzo, fuck SLASH, I am all about the Cunt-Twat now! | ||||
| FoundryMusicJJ G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Soldier of Fortune Spec Ops Division | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 10:01 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | Well i dont condone throwing beer bottles at people on the field, i still think that the damn refs made the wrong call. He had control of the ball until he hit the ground and i think i was complete. The refs deserved what they got. | ||||
| Lent Black Rock Coalition Do you have a basketball in your car? | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 10:13 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: May. 00 | quote: uh, the bottles were plastic. they have new bottles that look like your traditional glass beer bottles, but are plastic. i saw them at shea once. but regardless many of them were filled with beer and the speed and weight alone could cause a bad head injury. - AIM:roweLENTless2001 | ||||
| Wookie | posted on 12-17-2001 @ 10:25 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | Yeah, even plastic, coming from the upper deck is gonna hurt. Plus, the TV guys were saying that other stuff was flying, as well. They said they saw a guy get "split open" by a flying walkman. Who the F hurls a walkman?!?! The other thing, given the game situation, why bother bringing the teams back out? Sure, it's almost a full minute, but theu just took 2 knees anyway. Pointless, it seems. Thank you for being a friend.  "No one's going to walk up to George Lucas and say, 'R2D2 is a schmuck.'" - Richard Dreyfuss | ||||
| IHateMessageBoards | posted on 12-18-2001 @ 1:42 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Dec. 01 | Some of those bottles were definitly glass. Also, did anyone see the Saints v. Rams on monday night? A similar thing happened in the 2nd half of the game because the Saints were rackin' up a lot of penalties. -me | ||||
| Squidward | posted on 12-18-2001 @ 1:53 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | I didn't see the game or the call that caused the bottle throwing (because all they show on TV are all the officials running) but that scene just might have topped the Eagles fans throwing snowballs at Santa Claus (and I was at that game). | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 12-18-2001 @ 11:55 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | It happened again last night in New Orleans but not even close to being as bad as Cleveland. Just took a little segment out of the article out. The Public address announcement is the funniest. quote: | ||||
| NASA | posted on 12-31-2001 @ 3:48 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 01 | I thought this was kinda funny so I posted it. It's a fan at yesterday's Redskins, Saints game. J - E - T - S, Jets Jets Jets. Home of the Refuse-To-Win Offense. New York State Twatto -- "Hey, you never know." GodBlessAmerica. This message was edited by NASA on 12-31-01 @ 3:51 PM | ||||
| MrQuotes NO!!! You can't have any smiley faces in your status!!! G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Missile Command | posted on 12-31-2001 @ 8:38 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00 | the pic's right thats why you should find an empty bottle and piss in it then throw it joking of course...
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