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Drunken GW
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posted on 02-27-2001 @ 3:41 PM      
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Who do they get rid of.....Who stays??

I'll start by saying Graves and his 23 points in 62 games has to go. Unless he's willing to be a 4th line checker. Graves is one of the better people in hockey but he's a meer shadow of his 50 goal performance in 1993-94 season.

The Czech line of Hlavac, Nedvd, and Dvorak stays. Besides Fleury this may be the only bright spot the team has.

Your thoughts.....



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SpiderBob
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 4:04 PM      
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Well, they gotta do alot. I would start off with DEFENSE & Goaltending. Their Defense is disgusting. With Mike Richter hopefully well by opening day and back to normal, that'll be a boost. But they have to get some Defenseman. Brian Leetch is NOT a #1 defenseman, and IMO is one of the most overrated defenseman in the NHL. They have to get some defensive defenseman and build up a core of defenseman. Then everything will fall into place. Goals will come, Wins will come, and not hopefully they'll make the playoffs.

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posted on 02-27-2001 @ 4:04 PM      
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Win/tie more - lose less

No such thing as an 'untouchable' on a team that misses the playoff 4 years in a row

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boonsy
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 4:14 PM      
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Leetch isn't a number one defenseman????? i guess being the leading defenseman in points and playing over 30:00 minutes a game in every key spot doens't make you a number one defenseman....

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posted on 02-27-2001 @ 4:17 PM      
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I don't think Leetch is the most overrated palyer in hockey...What is he going to do when he is the only defenseman capable of playin NHL hockey?? That's why his +/- is outragous..he has to take chances because no other defender can rush the puck. I realize he isn't the player he was 5 years ago but he is not there problem. Signing Kamensky 2 years ago and Malakhov this year are the major reasons why this team is going nowhere.



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SpiderBob
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 4:40 PM      
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Boonsy, he should try playing some defense. His career +/-??? A massive 843 points, and only a +23??? What the hell is that??? Scott Niedermayer, who averages close to 27 minutes a game has 338 points in his career, has a +112 for his career. That's a defesenman. Scott Stevens? Plays about 25-30 minutes against the top guys in the league and his career +/-, with 850 points, a + 336.

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boonsy
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 4:48 PM      
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over the past 3 years the rangers goals against have been alot more than goals for and being the NUMBER ONE defenseman that he is on the ice more than half the game that's why his plus-minus isn't very high...although i am a huge ranger fan i'll admit broduer is a better goalie than richter and he has more shutouts than richter. richter hasn't had a shut out since i think 97 or 98.

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posted on 02-27-2001 @ 4:52 PM      
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get rid of all these old fags bring up some young players they will have a better team.



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SpiderBob
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 4:58 PM      
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Richter, if on the Devils would have similar stats. What good is playing him 30 minutes if he can't play good defense for 30 minutes.

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boonsy
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 5:00 PM      
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leetch plays great defense, the overall defense of the rangers is what the problem is. you can't blame leetch for the overall team defense. he and richter can't stop everything themselves the team defense is horrible.

Francine Banger
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 5:00 PM      
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Brian Leetch also has 2 Norris Trophy's and possibly a 3rd one this year. Also he has a Conn Smythe Trophy under his belt. Ever since Beukeboom left he hasht had anybody to play with. He has played alright with Pilon, but over the past couple of years with players like Kevin Hatcher and Mathieu Schneider, He is the Rangers Defense. So his plus-minus sucks, but you know what. Its not going to be so great, when your team is losing. He plays 30 minutes a night, the Rangers lose most nights, thats why his plus/minus sucks. He also leads Defensemen in scoring. And not only is he a #1 Defensemen. He is still one of the Top 3 or 5 Defensemen in the league.

Now as far as the Rangers making the playoffs next season. Go out and get a Top Name Free Agent like Sakic, and dont bother giving middle line guys big money like they did with Kamensky and Malakhov.

If you can dump the old guys do so, Play Brendl, Lundmark, Mottau, Kloucek, Purinton, Malhotra and the kids and mix them up with some of the vets like Messier and Fleury.

Theres a good chance a team like Detroit or St. Louis is going to make a move for Graves at the deadline.


Ronreddog
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 5:06 PM      
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First, they need to learn to play hockey as a fucking team!!! That is great that Leetch leads all defensemen in scoring. WTFC! (Who the fuck cares) I would take Scott Stevens over Leetch any day of the week, and twice on Sunday!

As for making the playoffs next year, it's obvious that Rangers fans are throwing in the towel already. How about they make the playoffs when they BEAT THE DEVILS!

That could take as long as it took for them to win their last cup!

Seriously though, they need to lower their payroll and bring up some young talent.





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SpiderBob
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 5:11 PM      
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Francine then let him play forward for crying out loud. Norris Trophy's mean nothing towards defense. It's an award to the Defenseman with the highest points (well not directly but basically), Three Defenseman (used to have four) on the Devils are better than Leetch and they have no trophys.

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Silent CART Fan
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 5:14 PM      
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Have you people no faith in our beloved NYR??
The NYR will rebound nd make the playoffs THIS YEAR. And then we march on through the playoffs and onto the Stanley Cup!



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boonsy
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 5:16 PM      
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silent your joking........right?

even though nobody in new york would want this but the rangers should look more towards 2 -3 years down the line...developing the young talent is key...trading it away for older proven guys pays off for about 2 years....look at the devils rafalski, niedermayer, sykora, broduer, holik, gomez and alot more have come through thier system and are now making them the stanley cup contenders every year that they are. if the rangers do what the devils did they'll be back there in a few years. hey i know it's not gonna be fun watching them play like the islanders but they are only a few steps above them right now

Francine Banger
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 5:36 PM      
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Please, 3 or 4 Defensemen are better than Leetch.
If Leetch was on the Devils you would love him
So he scores Points, so that means he sucks. Yeah that makes sense.

And Cart have you watched any of the games, they arent making the playoffs. They are too far behind and would have to play unconcious hockey the rest of the way.

Francine Banger
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 5:38 PM      
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and if the Norris Trophy is just for the defensemen with the most points than why did Chris Pronger win it last year and also the MVP, and not a guys like Nicklas Lidstrom or Sandis Ozolinsh?

I guess Bobby Orr sucked too right?

Silent CART Fan
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 5:49 PM      
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I attend 10 - 15 games a year and I never miss a game on tv. I love the NYR so much that I have blinded myself to any criticism of the team and I never give up EVER ?????

The NYR can do it. They start winning some games, Boston and Carolina start loosing and we are in. We have been playing some really great hockey but we have to overcome the 3rd period.



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Francine Banger
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 6:39 PM      
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Moral Victories dont count as Points in the Standings. They played good games against Philadelphia and Ottawa but does it matter. No. Because they got 0 points out of it. Not to mention the Rangers still have alot of tough games on their schedule including 2 games at the Devils, another game in Philadelphia, another game vs. Pittsburgh, another game in Ottawa. They have Detroit to play. And they have to beat out 2 TWO! Teams, Not one.

RigidMachine
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 9:14 PM      
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hahaha ..... syndication when the rangers make the playoffs ........ oh, well O&A ......

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NJDrunkrone
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 9:16 PM      
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The only way they will make the playoffs next year is if there name was the NJ Devils .


Note : I'm an Islander Fan

SpiderBob
posted on 02-27-2001 @ 10:20 PM      
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LOL Ridgid

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Raven
posted on 02-28-2001 @ 7:38 PM      
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here is the word on the web
Graves/Pilon -- look for Detroit to move on them
St. L will look at Sly Lefebvre
NYR will DUMP anyone of these numbers if they can get takers (and if NY eats the $) 13,8,25,28,29 and will try to move Mclean if someone wants a back up goalie



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SpiderBob
posted on 02-28-2001 @ 8:20 PM      
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